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BBMA's (89,470)
by darrian liu from taiwan
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Words cannot express how much I'm so proud of Mariah. Her performance, her speech, everything, even the interviews afterwards. Her performance had hiccups, it had some mishaps, she obviously wasn't in the best shape vocally, but she pulled through the whole thing like a champ. It wasn't about her vocals anymore, or how she looked, or how she acted. For that whole performance, we were all united by the music, the nostalgia, the awe that comes with a career and a talent of this magnitude, and most importantly - how resilient she is. This isn't a celebration of a successful, flawless idol; this is a celebration of her redemption. The free humor, the humility, the humanness; that's why we fell in love with Mariah and her music. Truly an iconic moment.
(Monday 6 May 2019; 14:19)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,465) (89,469)
by Bill from the UK
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I agree. She exuded confidence in earlier performances throughout the early to mid-90s. If her nerves are due to her voice now being unreliable, this is through her own choices she's made. Alcohol, marijuana, and excessive singing without recovery all damage a voice, yet she continues to do all these things. It's only because her voice was so spectacular to begin with, that she can still get by (albeit with a lot of smoke and mirrors). Not hating, simply stating the facts as I see them. Mariah is free to make whatever choices she wants to with her life, but as with everything, you reap what you sow.
(Monday 6 May 2019; 11:37)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,459) (89,468)
by Shezz from Pk
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I think nerves kick in now more than ever because she knows she's lost a lot of her voice and that she can't rely on it anymore. And more so on these public shows because she wants to be known as the voice and she knows people will be expecting her to deliver the enormous vocals when she can't. Isn't there something she can take before these performances to take the edge off a bit? A puff or 2?
(Monday 6 May 2019; 05:37)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,463) (89,467)
by Licia from USA
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I completely understand her being nervous and scared that her voice may not work in the way she wants it to in front of the world. I'm sympathetic to her and any other singer who goes through this. What I don't understand is why it seems that she's not taking the necessary steps to fix the problem so that she doesn't have to constantly worry or be nervous. It just seems to me like she's ignoring the problem, hoping it will work itself out. I don't want it to reach a point where it's unfixable.
(Monday 6 May 2019; 04:59)
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There've been a few memes (89,466)
by Marissa from USA
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From the "there've been a few memes" comment to her admitting that her focus hadn't been in the right place for the past few years in her Genius interview, to her saying that she wasn't happy with her BBMA performance, the silver lining in all of this is that it has been nice to see Mariah show some self-awareness about her mistakes and mishaps. For the past few years I would watch performances and see her outrageous moments with the nightmare squad and would just think, "Does she genuinely believe that she is putting forward her best effort? Is this how she wants to be known?" It was so painful to watch someone make mistakes and double, triple, and quadruple down on them instead of learning from them and growing. Now it seems like she is finally starting to own her shit, and it is refreshing to watch. It sucked to see the nightmare squad go after her but it definitely gave her the kick in the behind needed to finally take responsibility for her life and poor decisions in the past and move forward as a grown woman (no matter what age she calls herself publicly ).
(Monday 6 May 2019; 04:48)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,459) (89,465)
by Stacey from USA
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My thoughts exactly. She certainly wasn't nervous during 1996 singing all those crazy notes at MSG.
(Monday 6 May 2019; 03:45)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,459) (89,464)
by B from USA
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Because she's always suffered from stage fright. She's never been a performer like Whitney or Celine.
(Monday 6 May 2019; 02:19)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,459) (89,463)
by Will from England
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Well, if you think about it, up until a few years ago, her voice was pretty much consistent. Whilst she may have had nerves early on in her career, she overcame/dealt with them because she didn't need to worry about her voice. It was one thing she could rely on to deliver a show well. Since Rockefeller though, she has known that every single performance that she does on TV now will be analysed in depth by fans and non-fans because it's being broadcast all over the world, replayed on YouTube and reacted to, and if she hits one wrong note, she knows that she will be torn down because of it. Have you not noticed that since then, the number of TV performances she has actually done have dropped considerably to just a scattering of them? She's only performed on TV when she has needed to or has been hired to. She knows that people are waiting for her to fail again, and for someone who has had insecurities all her life, that can mess your confidence up quite a bit, and sadly there is no quick way to fix it, no matter how long you have been in the game. The BMAs are viewed by quite a few people and this year, because of accepting the Icon Award, all eyes and attention will be on her and that's a stressful moment for anyone to deal with, on top of having to worry if your voice is going to be able to carry you through a performance that consists of some of the toughest songs ever recorded, and doing it all live. I mean, let's look at Adele, who true hasn't been doing this as long as Mariah, has openly said that she suffers from stage fright terribly. Other singers who have been doing this for a long time, like Barbra Streisand, Andrea Bocelli, all have come out and said that they too suffer from stage fright. It's not something that experience and longevity can fix. In Mariah's own words "But for me, there are different rules, I don't know why."
(Monday 6 May 2019; 00:04)
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Re: Mariah Caution vinyl for sale (89,454) (89,462)
by Bobby A from United States
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I decided to take it to my local bookstore this afternoon. They gave me $20.00 for it. Sorry.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 23:48)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,453) (89,461)
by Will from England
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I can understand that. It's not necessarily picking apart her voice, but focusing more on her technique on the night and what she could do to improve it going forwards. They do conclude by saying that there are things that she can do to ensure her voice has more consistency, and do say that overall, vocally, it was a challenging medley for her to do. I found it to be a positive look at it overall, rather than bashing/slating her. They say things that have been mentioned on this board over the past few years, only that they have the expertise and knowledge to back up what they are saying. As for nerves, that is highlighted and they do go into detail on her body language as she's singing which highlights the nerves. It is worth a watch.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 22:14)
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Article: Lovari features Mariah Carey remake (89,460)
by Steven Berning from USA
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His voice is so, so, so, so horrible. How the heck is he legit? That was painful to listen to. That was comparable to the crazy singers on American Idol, during the opening auditions, who have no idea how atrocious they are until Simon Cowell goes in on them lol.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 20:50)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,453) (89,459)
by Randy from USA
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I'm just curious. After 30 years of singing all around the world and in front of presidents, at star funerals and on live television, why are nerves still a valid excuse for someone considered one of the best singers of all time?
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 20:36)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,453) (89,458)
by Special K from USA
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I thought those guys were fair and made good points. They did mention nerves. I'm generalizing but they felt when Mariah's nerves kicked in, that is when she would push too hard on the vocals which caused the pitch and lack of control issues. Like they stated it's obvious either Mariah currently has nodules or had them in the past which is contributing to the deterioration of her voice. Personally I thought they were spot on about Mariah humbling herself, accepting her current voice, and working with a vocal coach that will get her voice healthy and in top condition. It was repeated a few times that Mariah's voice is not healthy. It was also pointed out that Mariah can still hit the high notes with ease and what was really interesting is they pointed out that Mariah's lower registry was in top form and they didn't understand why she doesn't make adjustments and incorporate her lower registry more while singing live. Fans don't want to hear it but I actually agreed "to a certain degree" with dude when he said Mariah was lazy and perhaps riding on her name, but then he seemed to change his tune reiniterating that he knows she works hard, etc. They also discussed why the pitch dropped during WBT because she was out of breath and also pointing out why Mariah can't hold a consistent clear flow singing ABMB. Bottom line, Mariah has got to set her priorities straight taking the necessary steps to get her voice healthy again and adjusting to the changes in her voice. She can do it, but it's going to take dedication, hard work, and humility.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 19:01)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,453) (89,457)
by RibbonB from USA
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She sings like that on tour. The nerves thing has been played out, although it course they would show at a big moment like that. She's been in the game long enough to slay those big moments. The best ones do. I hope she takes a break after the European leg of Caution and the Vegas residency that she's doing "One mo gen". At some point she needs to address the voice or at least rest it for a couple of years. Constantly pushing through to keep paying her entourage is self defeating.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 18:13)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,452) (89,456)
by RibbonB from USA
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I agree it's a fair reaction.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 18:07)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,452) (89,455)
by Jono from USA
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I definitely respect his constructive criticism; he usually is very good about picking apart an artist's voice without bashing, it's a very honest assessment. He also reacted to Mariah's famous 1992 "If It's Over" performance and he was absolutely floored.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 17:55)
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Mariah Caution vinyl for sale (89,454)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am trying to sell my picture disc Caution vinyl for $20.00 or best offer. I only played two times. If someone is interested or knows someone in the Dallas-Fort Worth Texas area who may interested, I can be reached by mercyjames678@gmail.com.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 17:47)
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Re: BMA vocal analysis (89,452) (89,453)
by Shezz from Pk
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I tried to watch it all but it's still very awkward almost cringe for me when someone picks Mariah's vocals apart - let alone for 25 minutes. Of course their technical analysis were nothing to be contested with and I could't watch it all so I don't know but do they mention nerves at all? I feel they played a huge part in the performance and she repeatedly said after the performance and several interviews that she wasn't happy at all with her performance and that she was way too nervous to sing the way she does at her concerts. The video sounded as though they were judging this performance to judge where stands in general now. I feel she still does pretty well in tours.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 14:27)
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BMA vocal analysis (89,452)
by Will from England
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I follow this voice teacher on YouTube and he does great in-depth analysis' of various singers, what they are doing well, where they can improve, and he did a reaction to Mariah's recent performance, and I think it's a fair reaction to her voice.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 09:53)
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Re: Vocal texture (89,444) (89,451)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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The great thing about judging how spectacular a Mariah performance is is that they can only be compared to her previous ones and not other artists'. Peak Mariah is the bar for many others, but most especially herself. And even if her performances from here on out are less impressive, less consistent and less impactful, they only are such compared to what she did over a decade or two ago, and they still hold their own against younger singers such as Bey, Ariana, Kelly, Christina, etc. who may riff out and hit higher notes with such ease, but their efforts still end up lacking the gravitas that Mariah's voice still holds. It's that unique, golden tone, weathered and leathery as it is today, that still holds much more conviction that most out there. Now that Whitney isn't around, any of these other artists hitting a C5 in full chest voice still feels less resonant and less glorious than when Mariah hits them. The advantage of Mariah's diminished capability to deliver runs like it were the Olympics is that she is forced to use them sparingly, so that when she does try and hit them and nails them, they leave much more of an impact than when other female singers deliver run after run after run. Even today, the other singers can compete, but cannot compare. Mariah may have lost a significant deal of the ease, fluidity, and the range, but has lost none of the character, emotiveness and heft of her voice.
(Sunday 5 May 2019; 09:52)
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Iconic image (89,450)
by Tijl from Belgium
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This passed by on FB. Our glorious queen.
(Saturday 4 May 2019; 12:30)
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Article: Mariah Carey gets emotional during acceptance speech (89,449)
by Travis from USA
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This Billboard Icon moment was emotional for me (I'm not going to lie) because it's well deserved for so many reasons. I can't believe that Jennifer Lopez got this honor before Mariah, but no shade. The performance medley was absolutely amazing and even though Mariah had a couple cracks here and there, it's normal, and she absolutely killed it 100% live, on a award show, which is rare. The biggest highlight for me was the fact that the fans and the entire audience of celebrities were giving Mariah the respect that she deserved, was dancing and singing along, but also truly celebrating her worth in the music industry. Normally when Mariah is at a rewards show, the audience is usually boring and just don't care. Here's to the fabulous Mariah and to what the future brings. Lots of love and lamb always. 
(Saturday 4 May 2019; 05:25)
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Fun little story (89,448)
by Chris from United States
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When my husband came home from work yesterday, he told me that one of his assistants was saying that Mariah sounded horrible during her performance, and that she should just quit already. He then proceeded with "well, that's what she said before she fell and hurt herself badly enough to have to go home early. Not really sure when she's returning." I'm pretty sure it's safe to say God's got MC's back, lol.
(Saturday 4 May 2019; 03:07)
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Billboard Music Awards (89,447)
by Giovanni from USA
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Mariah looked amazing and gave a very good speech. She had a diva moment but kept it classy and was humble. There was a lot of love and respect there that night and she deserved it. She's paved the way for so many and has inspired a whole new generation of singers. In my opinion she was the highlight of the night. Nobody will ever match her voice or her music.
(Saturday 4 May 2019; 00:19)
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Article: Mariah Carey gets emotional during acceptance speech (89,446)
by Betty from Canada
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I didn't think that MC could top her 1999 speech for BBMA's Artist Of The Decade but she did because "she has come a long way" like she previously said and she is no where near done.
(Friday 3 May 2019; 21:55)
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