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8th Grade (86,867) by Dove from United States 8th Grade reminds me of some of the people on this message board. Especially Andrew and Edward. Portrait too. If she was standing right next to you would you write the negative things you write "limitless with nothing to lose"? A long time ago (2014/2015) when I used to frequent this message board a lot, either Andrew or Edward said something like, "the sun will rise tomorrow and Mariah will still be here" or something along those lines. I remember it because it was so well written and almost poetic. It was probably Andrew. (At me or someone else because we would get upset when anyone said anything too negative about MC.) That's what came to mind when I heard the line: "Yet I know that tomorrow comes, so I'll be here when you rise." I had to come back and share my thought. I really think she or someone on her team has visited this site. (Wednesday 5 December 2018; 01:03)

Re: 8th Grade (86,850) (86,866) by george golden from uk 8th Grade gets better with every listen. What an amazing song. Seriously amazing. Should definitely be a single. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 23:29)

With You Top 10 Urban AC (86,865) by Bobby A from United States With an increase in spins, With You jumps up to Number 9 on the Urban AC chart. Her first since Touch My Body bowed at Number 7 in 2008. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 22:57)

Re: For the life of me (86,847) (86,864) by Andrew from UK Sorry, I missed this. Lol. Anyone who has ever spoken to me will tell you I am quite lovely and quite emotional and erudite. I vent on this board about the nonsense my idol commits to. And opinions about people who do not understand me wash over me. As they should anybody. Demonize me all you like, ha. I'm quite comfortable in my own skin. But I do appreciate your posts. You are quite level headed. I look forward to your comments. Now, anyway... *picks up pitchfork* Let's go, bitches. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 22:55)

Re: For the life of me (86,853) (86,863) by Andrew from UK Raycest. I speak English like Mariah dahling. Is "dahling" cultural appropriation? I'm going with it. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 22:42)

Re: For the life of me (86,840) (86,862) by Andrew from UK Thank you for the message that actually listened to what I was saying and didn't demonize me immediately lol. Genuinely. Cautions first half has a mood and is musically lovely. I must agree with Eddie that With You is stuck in my brain even to this day. It's the latter half I do not like. It feels like one long drone. I felt the same way with Charmbracelet and Memoirs (but the latter record has absurdly outstanding moments). I cannot comprehend what Mariah fans see in this album. Many of the things I love about Mariah are missing. It is what it is. I predicted a summer album and given MC's current mood and brilliant interviews I think she may deliver one. To end on a negative: that recent performance where Mariah wore the long coat and walked the runway and had natural hair and smiled that famous non-fake smile... where has that gone on the Christmas tour? I cannot quite comprehend how she doesn't see that that's what fans want from her. And its so eeeeaaaassssy. She did it. Mariah, get back to work properly. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 22:29)

Re: Beyonce Global Citizen festival (86,818) (86,861) by Terna from Nigeria You're not gonna like me if you don't drop this angel wings rant you keep going on and on about. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 19:43)

Re: 8th Grade (86,766) (86,860) by Terna from Nigeria Lol. Like really? I love (all caps) "One Mo 'Gen" it's like top three favorite after "GTFO" and "8th Grade". Haha. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 19:32)

Re: Caution acclaim CD rankings (86,856) (86,859) by RibbonB from USA 1.TEOM skip To The Floor and Get Your Number every time. 1a. E=MC2, I hop around filled with hand and 18th number in the timeless TMB. 2. Me I Am Mariah, sad, but poignant. Will have a justice for MIAM moment in ten years. 3. Memoirs, fun songs, too wordy at times. Great vocals. Trying to do too much, but not doing enough. 4. Caution, I love 8th Grade timeless, touching. GML is experimental and creative, great to explore in future projects. Stay Long Love is a radio ready bop. I avoid the first half of this project, boring. Looking forward to A No No remix though. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 19:30)

Caution (86,858) by Edward from USA Caution is short and sweet with the vocals of Mariah O' the Day, of course. I have the feeling she'll go all out on her next album, hopefully next year. As for considering "Caution" better than "Charmbracelet", if I were to choose based on lyrics, creativity and art overall, I would take "Charmbracelet" over "Caution" any day. Mariah pen game on "Charmbracelet" is great, still poetic and meaninful. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 18:46)

Re: Justice for AIWFCIY (86,626) (86,857) by jaker20 from US Is it time to power-stream yet? Everything seems to be in the right order and it's rising so fast on all fronts (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 18:41)

Caution acclaim is better than sales (86,856) by jaker20 from US I love that MC's getting some of the best reviews in a long time. In the end it's the music that people will remember. Imo, Caution is her best album since TEOM. I literally don't skip any song, it flows so smoothly. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 18:36)

Re: 8th Grade (86,850) (86,855) by B from USA Like on Daydream, on Caution Mariah's whistles are textured into a lot of the songs, especially in the background. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 17:37)

Re: Mariah Carey shelved projects (86,849) (86,854) by Edward from USA You're right. "The Angel Cut and Paste" was the only project announced that never saw the light of day. I'm happy it was shelved. That would've been a stain in her recording career. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 17:37)

Re: For the life of me (86,838) (86,853) by Edward from USA Andrew, you have to stop telling people about the albums you cherish the most. Those bitch ass folks rate them with 3 stars just to go against you, don't you see? There's an illuminati mole in this board. I hope I used "bitch ass folks" correctly. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 14:30)

Re: For the life of me (86,847) (86,852) by B from USA I would hardly call Caution an R&B album that debuted at #1 on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and at #5 on the Billboard 200 charts a flop. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 13:37)

Re: Mariah Carey shelved projects (86,849) (86,851) by B from USA After listening to the remixes from the Angels Advocate remix album on the deluxe edition of MIAM I'm glad it was shelved. Although I prefer the album verson of Angels Cry, her duet of it with Ne-Yo has 120 million YouTube views. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 13:26)

Re: 8th Grade (86,848) (86,850) by Edouard from France 8th Grade is clearly the best vocals on the album in my opinion. It's been one of my favs on the album upon first listen. Vocally it's very "Slipping Away" and just as good I must say. The fact that the song is so much talked about on this board and elsewhere is a sign of its appeal. It's cryptical and that's another proof of Mariah's genius as a writer. We connect to the song because she's able to tell the story of a grow up relationship but with the eyes of the child she once was. That's pretty powerful although very simple at the same time. This album is so smart and on so many levels. Love Caution, love Mariah. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 12:02)

Re: Mariah Carey shelved projects (86,845) (86,849) by Bill from the UK The only real shelved project we know about is the Angels Advocate album, and probably for good reason. The rest is just speculation until her memoir is released, where she will hopefully shed some light on what was going on in the background. She did say she was contracted to release an album a year when at her original stint at Sony, and 1996 is the only year without an album so potentially something was in the works that got scrapped. But then, Daydream was still churning out hits well into 1996 and selling so all I can conceive being released would be an accompanying live album for the tour. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 11:55)

8th Grade (86,848) by Sheila from United States 8th Grade is starting to win in my book. Those vocals darling, those vocals. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 11:43)

Re: For the life of me (86,838) (86,847) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I actually like it when you get a little mushy. It's rare, so we'll take what we get since we all know you'll have your pitchforks out come your next post. I for one love Caution - I think it's the perfect album for 2018 Mariah and even more impressive considering her age and her current status in today's industry. And like you said, industry respect is key. Physical sales in the age of steaming is practically irrelevant, and Mariah has had that and much more in the past anyway, so when everything is said and done - no matter how much she is considered a has been and a flop, it's the respect that will stay at the end of the day. Considering the extreme brand tarnishing that we all had to sit through in recent years, who would have known that she could turn things around so quickly? I mean who else does this sort of redemption arc happen to? And I feel that you like Caution the least - for now (all caps). I mean look at you - I recall you went from hating the initial snippet of GTFO, then liking the song. Same with With You. You didn't like The Distance, but then you learned to like and even praise the first half of Caution. Mariah sneaks up on you like that and she's probably the only artist who can. Anything can happen at this point. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 11:07)

Mariah Carey revered (86,846) by DivergentIntel from United States of America Is it just me or am I the only one who thinks that Mariah is the girl everyone loves to hate, and/or also the girl everyone hates to love. I feel like this sums up her existence and being since her career debut. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 09:05)

Mariah Carey shelved projects (86,845) by DivergentIntel from United States of America Hey has anyone ever wondered if Mariah Carey was going to release some sort of album in 1996? According to reports that exist out there, Mariah Carey was considered a contender for the lead role in Evita. Mariah Carey would have been perfect for that role and possibly could have won an Oscar for it. Given her situation at the time a la Tommy Mottola and her personality, and had she been given more actual acting roles, I think she would have knocked it out of the ballpark. She could have won an Oscar or a Tony back in 1996, 1997, 1998 etc. This would have been great image wise and career wise and would have made 1996 a year in which she could have had something released and increased album sales. Another project I believe was shelved by Mariah Carey was possibly a Christmas album in the year 2000. Notice how she was supposed to release Where Are You Christmas? and the Holy Night music video in 2000 and also the All I Want For Christmas Is You remix song that had the cartoon music video with voice contributions from Lil Bow Wow and Jermaine Dupri SoSo Def etc? (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 09:03)

Mariah Carey album sales discrepancy (86,844) by DivergentIntel from United States of America Hello there to all my fellow lambs. I could not help but wonder if Billboard changes or rewrites history or changes the stats it reports. In the annual reporting of each years sales usually posted in January after the entire year that passed is over look at the tabulation sales. In January 1994, it was reported that for her Music Box album, it is said to have sold 3.3 million in 1993 alone for USA sales according to Billboard/Nielsen. Then in January 1995, it was reported that Music Box had sold 2.7 million for the year of 1994 in USA sales alone. 3.3 + 2.7 = 6 million plus. That means that she had sold over 6 million plus in USA sales alone for Music Box in the USA by January 1995 according to Billboard/Nielsen. Also, another thing I am wondering, in these respective reports which were included in Billboard Magazine every January, were these including BMG Music Club store sales etc or did it exclude that from the tabulation? As of November 2018, Music Box is reported to have sold 7.3 million copies in the USA. In 1995, Daydream is reported to have sold 3.9 million copies for USA sales alone. In 1996, Daydream is reported to have sold 3 million copies. That means that by January 1997, Daydream had sold well over in excess of 6.9 million copies. Daydream is said as of November 2018 to have sold 7.7 million copies, although it should be surpassing the 7.8 million mark. Does that tabulation include BMG Club sales and music club store sales or not? Butterfly is said to have sold 2.1 million in 1997 in the USA. In 1998, it is reported to have sold 1.3 million in the USA. That means that by January 1999, it sold over 3.4 million copies. Butterfly today as of November 2018 is said to have sold over 3.8 million copies according the report coverage on her Career sales recently done by Billboard/Nielsen. Rainbow is reported to have sold over 2.1 million in 1999 at lin the USA alone. I can't seem to find a report for how much Rainbow sold for the entire year of 2000, but I suspect it was at least 1 million if not more. In November 2018, it is reported that Mariah sold 2.9 million copies of Rainbow in the USA. The reason why I question what Billboard has reported recently versus the past is because they have become questionable with how they report and edit or change criteria or rules. Remember how Mariah Carey is among the top 2 most awarded/rewarded artists with most Billboard Awards alongside Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson. Yet, in recent years, Billboard has been saying that they only have like 14 or lesser numbers. What are your thoughts on this my fellow Lambs. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 08:56)

Re: Bill (86,812) (86,843) by TJ from Norway Hahaha. (Tuesday 4 December 2018; 06:26)

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