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Obsessed in the UK (104,579)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I think Mariah caving to the auto tune trend and also a vocalist singing "sexing me" was a bit hard for the radio audience to digest. The Jump Smokers remix is the best version, the OG isn't a fast song or a slow song, it's a challenge to know where it fits. However, The music video and response to Eminem's harassment is legendary.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 23:52)
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Obsessed in the UK (104,577)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I think usage of auto tune throw people away from loving it to the fullest. Plus the remix with Gucci Mane was just the same song with extra male verse.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 22:19)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,578)
by Stacey from USA
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No teacher of mine in the 1990s wore that. I'm a teacher now and I don't wear that, lol. I should clarify my post. MC looked beautiful and covered up. Just proves she can wear age appropriate clothing and still look stunning.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 23:13)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,568)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC was emulating what a teacher would wear. The two piece dress suit was a popular ensemble for teachers back in the late 80s and early 90s.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 00:29)
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Obsessed in the UK (104,577)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I think usage of auto tune throw people away from loving it to the fullest. Plus the remix with Gucci Mane was just the same song with extra male verse.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 22:19)
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Obsessed in the UK (104,573)
by Andrew from the UK
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I can't fully appreciate how and why Obsessed tanked so badly here. The song was liked far and wide, the video was constantly appearing on television for obvious reasons, and whenever I heard or hear it, people sing along with the chorus for they know it and like it. It's baffling. Any ideas?
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 14:22)
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My All (Kanye's arrangement) (104,576)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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I just watched. There is a snippet of new version of My All. I have listened again to Kanye's version - the lyrics and arrangements are the same. A few years ago Mariah said that she liked Kanye's version of My All and would like to perform it. Then for few years there was nothing. Now it is part of her Christmas show. I like his version, but I like the original more. The new version is called "Christmas Gospel Version".
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 19:47)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,575)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Lol I didn't think of it that way. But when I was in the first grade in 91 my teacher had the mentioned ensemble. She was the principal and even as a kid I always noticed her elegant outfit. Anyway the ensemble really suits Mariah. MC the principal.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 14:36)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,568)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC was emulating what a teacher would wear. The two piece dress suit was a popular ensemble for teachers back in the late 80s and early 90s.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 00:29)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,574)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Yes, absolutely beautiful. I always love a classy and more natural look.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 14:27)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,567)
by Stacey from USA
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I kinda wish she'd dress like this all the time.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 23:20)
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Obsessed in the UK (104,573)
by Andrew from the UK
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I can't fully appreciate how and why Obsessed tanked so badly here. The song was liked far and wide, the video was constantly appearing on television for obvious reasons, and whenever I heard or hear it, people sing along with the chorus for they know it and like it. It's baffling. Any ideas?
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 14:22)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,563)
by Jamie from UK
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Great response. Yes I agree she has still charted well upto Memoirs, my view was purely based on persona as apposed to actual music. I think people like her music here, they host didn't like the sudden change in image.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 15:56)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,572)
by Andrew from the UK
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Dearest Matty, I assure you that in my analyses of your comments the words I use are chosen with an equal amount of thoughtfulness, and as much kindness as I can muster in order to get my comments past Eric. 
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 14:18)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,566)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Andrew, thank you for the response. When you approach your opinion with kindness and thoughtfulness rather than mud slinging, your perspective is appreciated and understandable. I get what you're saying. I've had friends tell me they love her voice and music, but grapple with her persona. I love her persona and humour, but do get why she's a hard pill to swallow at times for some. I can't stand Madonna because of her persona, so I get it.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 20:13)
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AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,571)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I'm not surprised. RATCT is at no. 25 on Canadian iTunes atm. Ahead of Brenda is MC, Sia (Snowman) and Kelly Clarkson (Underneath the Tree) Christmas tunes.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 12:43)
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AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,570)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah is way ahead of Brenda in airplay, way ahead. As we get closer to Christmas, AIWFCIY is gaining more momentum.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 02:17)
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AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,570)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah is way ahead of Brenda in airplay, way ahead. As we get closer to Christmas, AIWFCIY is gaining more momentum.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 02:17)
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AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,569)
by enwar00 from usa
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I just read on Talk of the Charts that AIWFCIY is predicted to be back at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 next week, overtaking Brenda Lee again. Suddenly things seem a little brighter again. Mimi back at #1 where she belongs. It's still a prediction as Billboard doesn't release the official top 10 until Monday. But hopefully it will be, and for the next 3 weeks.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 01:43)
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AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,569)
by enwar00 from usa
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I just read on Talk of the Charts that AIWFCIY is predicted to be back at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 next week, overtaking Brenda Lee again. Suddenly things seem a little brighter again. Mimi back at #1 where she belongs. It's still a prediction as Billboard doesn't release the official top 10 until Monday. But hopefully it will be, and for the next 3 weeks.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 01:43)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,568)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC was emulating what a teacher would wear. The two piece dress suit was a popular ensemble for teachers back in the late 80s and early 90s.
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 00:29)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,567)
by Stacey from USA
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I kinda wish she'd dress like this all the time.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 23:20)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,567)
by Stacey from USA
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I kinda wish she'd dress like this all the time.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 23:20)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,560)
by Andrew from the UK
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Wow. If it wasn't written in black and white I would never have believed this photo to be from 2023. Mariah looks stunning here.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:45)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,566)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Andrew, thank you for the response. When you approach your opinion with kindness and thoughtfulness rather than mud slinging, your perspective is appreciated and understandable. I get what you're saying. I've had friends tell me they love her voice and music, but grapple with her persona. I love her persona and humour, but do get why she's a hard pill to swallow at times for some. I can't stand Madonna because of her persona, so I get it.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 20:13)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,559)
by Andrew from the UK
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Having taken off with I'll Be There, not until the Memoirs era did Mariah drop from being a pretty steady Top 10 artist. There were certainly some blips along the way, most notably releasing Butterfly as a single but Mariah for many many years was a mainstream radio listed artist. However, I'd agree that she became the source of much derision after she took her clothes off in 1997. Nobody wanted it from her. This emerging vanity aspect of her personality was quite off-putting to British people. The Heartbreaker Remix and Loverboy videos did maximum damage to her profile as did the expanding breasts which started ignoring each other sometime around 1998 into 1999.
It does all strike me as possibly a little bit unfair. Women - and girls, even - were treated very differently back then, such were the times that they would often be asked about their breasts in interviews. There is a video on YouTube of it happening to Britney when she was about 17 years old and it is uncomfortable viewing.
But with Mariah I believe she was very respected as a top-tier vocalist and she was, at the very essence of her being, a solid-bet of a hitmaker - the "Songbird Supreme", no less. That she had achieved this through sheer talent won her many fans who became confused at her need to add sex and sexuality to her career. It smacked of desperation and she was somewhat "slut-shamed".
I cannot help but often wonder what Mariah's career would be like if it was taking off in this day and age. Almost certainly she would not have endured the ridicule for having a mental health crisis but, rather, I would hope she would be, or have been, treated a lot more sympathetically.
Regardless of whataboutery, the success of her singles and her popularity whenever she visited the UK cannot be diminished and it serves to emphasise that if she has the right material and promotion she will be successful. Unfortunately, in terms of both, she has had neither for well over a decade now. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour needs to hit the road again.
N.b. Sorry for the essay, J-L, but I do suffer from insomnia. I gotta get me some sleep. Also, check out the chart-placing of "Obsessed", I don't recall it underperforming like that.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:42)
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Fly Like A Bird performance (104,565)
by Lady B from USA
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One of my all-time favorite performances of hers. This along with Joy to the World at that church in Harlem in the 90s are my 2 favorite.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 16:08)
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Fly Like A Bird performance (104,558)
by enwar00 from usa
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It's been years if not decades since I watched this FLAB performance from the Grammy's. Watching this from the halfway point of her long career with this many more years of life and experience since was amazing, and moved me so much more than in 2006. Mimi tore up that stage. After the performance this clips shows all the televised awards presented that she was nominated for. She was truly used and robbed that night.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 05:15)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,564)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I was getting early vibes too. She looked and dressed perfectly.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 15:57)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,560)
by Andrew from the UK
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Wow. If it wasn't written in black and white I would never have believed this photo to be from 2023. Mariah looks stunning here.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:45)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,563)
by Jamie from UK
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Great response. Yes I agree she has still charted well upto Memoirs, my view was purely based on persona as apposed to actual music. I think people like her music here, they host didn't like the sudden change in image.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 15:56)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,559)
by Andrew from the UK
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Having taken off with I'll Be There, not until the Memoirs era did Mariah drop from being a pretty steady Top 10 artist. There were certainly some blips along the way, most notably releasing Butterfly as a single but Mariah for many many years was a mainstream radio listed artist. However, I'd agree that she became the source of much derision after she took her clothes off in 1997. Nobody wanted it from her. This emerging vanity aspect of her personality was quite off-putting to British people. The Heartbreaker Remix and Loverboy videos did maximum damage to her profile as did the expanding breasts which started ignoring each other sometime around 1998 into 1999.
It does all strike me as possibly a little bit unfair. Women - and girls, even - were treated very differently back then, such were the times that they would often be asked about their breasts in interviews. There is a video on YouTube of it happening to Britney when she was about 17 years old and it is uncomfortable viewing.
But with Mariah I believe she was very respected as a top-tier vocalist and she was, at the very essence of her being, a solid-bet of a hitmaker - the "Songbird Supreme", no less. That she had achieved this through sheer talent won her many fans who became confused at her need to add sex and sexuality to her career. It smacked of desperation and she was somewhat "slut-shamed".
I cannot help but often wonder what Mariah's career would be like if it was taking off in this day and age. Almost certainly she would not have endured the ridicule for having a mental health crisis but, rather, I would hope she would be, or have been, treated a lot more sympathetically.
Regardless of whataboutery, the success of her singles and her popularity whenever she visited the UK cannot be diminished and it serves to emphasise that if she has the right material and promotion she will be successful. Unfortunately, in terms of both, she has had neither for well over a decade now. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour needs to hit the road again.
N.b. Sorry for the essay, J-L, but I do suffer from insomnia. I gotta get me some sleep. Also, check out the chart-placing of "Obsessed", I don't recall it underperforming like that.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:42)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,562)
by Bobby A from United States
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Andrew, you should be a staff writer for Rolling Stone magazine. This week your editorials have been fascinating coffee table reading before work in the morning. I can't wait to read what you will say in 2024.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 12:59)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,559)
by Andrew from the UK
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Having taken off with I'll Be There, not until the Memoirs era did Mariah drop from being a pretty steady Top 10 artist. There were certainly some blips along the way, most notably releasing Butterfly as a single but Mariah for many many years was a mainstream radio listed artist. However, I'd agree that she became the source of much derision after she took her clothes off in 1997. Nobody wanted it from her. This emerging vanity aspect of her personality was quite off-putting to British people. The Heartbreaker Remix and Loverboy videos did maximum damage to her profile as did the expanding breasts which started ignoring each other sometime around 1998 into 1999.
It does all strike me as possibly a little bit unfair. Women - and girls, even - were treated very differently back then, such were the times that they would often be asked about their breasts in interviews. There is a video on YouTube of it happening to Britney when she was about 17 years old and it is uncomfortable viewing.
But with Mariah I believe she was very respected as a top-tier vocalist and she was, at the very essence of her being, a solid-bet of a hitmaker - the "Songbird Supreme", no less. That she had achieved this through sheer talent won her many fans who became confused at her need to add sex and sexuality to her career. It smacked of desperation and she was somewhat "slut-shamed".
I cannot help but often wonder what Mariah's career would be like if it was taking off in this day and age. Almost certainly she would not have endured the ridicule for having a mental health crisis but, rather, I would hope she would be, or have been, treated a lot more sympathetically.
Regardless of whataboutery, the success of her singles and her popularity whenever she visited the UK cannot be diminished and it serves to emphasise that if she has the right material and promotion she will be successful. Unfortunately, in terms of both, she has had neither for well over a decade now. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour needs to hit the road again.
N.b. Sorry for the essay, J-L, but I do suffer from insomnia. I gotta get me some sleep. Also, check out the chart-placing of "Obsessed", I don't recall it underperforming like that.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:42)
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AIWFCIY (104,561)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Thanks dear, I also look forward to your posts too.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 12:13)
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AIWFCIY (104,555)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great post, Terna.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 22:59)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,560)
by Andrew from the UK
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Wow. If it wasn't written in black and white I would never have believed this photo to be from 2023. Mariah looks stunning here.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:45)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,559)
by Andrew from the UK
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Having taken off with I'll Be There, not until the Memoirs era did Mariah drop from being a pretty steady Top 10 artist. There were certainly some blips along the way, most notably releasing Butterfly as a single but Mariah for many many years was a mainstream radio listed artist. However, I'd agree that she became the source of much derision after she took her clothes off in 1997. Nobody wanted it from her. This emerging vanity aspect of her personality was quite off-putting to British people. The Heartbreaker Remix and Loverboy videos did maximum damage to her profile as did the expanding breasts which started ignoring each other sometime around 1998 into 1999.
It does all strike me as possibly a little bit unfair. Women - and girls, even - were treated very differently back then, such were the times that they would often be asked about their breasts in interviews. There is a video on YouTube of it happening to Britney when she was about 17 years old and it is uncomfortable viewing.
But with Mariah I believe she was very respected as a top-tier vocalist and she was, at the very essence of her being, a solid-bet of a hitmaker - the "Songbird Supreme", no less. That she had achieved this through sheer talent won her many fans who became confused at her need to add sex and sexuality to her career. It smacked of desperation and she was somewhat "slut-shamed".
I cannot help but often wonder what Mariah's career would be like if it was taking off in this day and age. Almost certainly she would not have endured the ridicule for having a mental health crisis but, rather, I would hope she would be, or have been, treated a lot more sympathetically.
Regardless of whataboutery, the success of her singles and her popularity whenever she visited the UK cannot be diminished and it serves to emphasise that if she has the right material and promotion she will be successful. Unfortunately, in terms of both, she has had neither for well over a decade now. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour needs to hit the road again.
N.b. Sorry for the essay, J-L, but I do suffer from insomnia. I gotta get me some sleep. Also, check out the chart-placing of "Obsessed", I don't recall it underperforming like that.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:42)
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UK Lamb (104,551)
by Jamie from UK
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The UK loved early Mariah, they just didn't like the whole transition from vocalist to diva. Obviously I'm not speaking for myself as I've continued to follow Mariah. I just think for the UK in general they didn't get the transition. I think she lost a lot of mature adult fans from Butterfly onwards.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 12:42)
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Fly Like A Bird performance (104,558)
by enwar00 from usa
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It's been years if not decades since I watched this FLAB performance from the Grammy's. Watching this from the halfway point of her long career with this many more years of life and experience since was amazing, and moved me so much more than in 2006. Mimi tore up that stage. After the performance this clips shows all the televised awards presented that she was nominated for. She was truly used and robbed that night.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 05:15)
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UK Lamb (104,557)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great topic, Matty and Jamie. I understand better now why MC's popularity diminished after Music Box.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 23:22)
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UK Lamb (104,552)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Thank you Jamie. That was such a thoughtful and understandable response. That's how I've seen and understood it tbh. Much of the UK don't understand or relate to her post Butterfly. I personally didn't relate to Mariah until Charmbraclet (I was in grade 11 at the time). I remember Mariah being the hottest artist in my grade 9 year (from a Canadian perspective), which was Heartbreaker era. Before that she was "Mom's music". Then when I went to uni, everyone was obsessed with TEOM album, and then during the E=MC2 era every queer club in the country was blasting Mimi. After those impressionable life moments, me and my friends have been buckled in for the ride.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 18:56)
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Anytime You Need a Friend (104,556)
by Bill from the UK
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So I was driving back from a friend's this afternoon and Anytime You Need a Friend was played on the radio. Let me repeat that. Anytime You Need a Friend was played on the radio.
I just about crashed my car when those opening notes began and Mariah started cooing softly. There is something about hearing her on the radio. Whatever magic it adds to the music shines through. Her songs sound brighter and more alive somehow.
What a treat to hear this song, in December no less when only one Mariah song is ever played. It was played the whole way through and the DJ said "she is some singer isn't she" which I thought was a great comment.
Mariah on UK radio consists of AIWFCIY in December, and then some pepperings of Hero, Without You, Endless Love and maybe I'll Be There. That's all I've ever heard. Oh and We Belong Together for a bit when that was a thing. I honestly haven't heard AYNAF on the radio since 1994. Wow.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 23:20)
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AIWFCIY (104,555)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great post, Terna.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 22:59)
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by Terna from Nigeria
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It's funny how Mariah made Christmas cool and now everyone wants in on the moment, but clearly she's the only one who's genuine about her love for the holidays. It would be crazy if for some strange reason, another song in her holiday canon suddenly gains steam and hits number 1. This would mean a tie with The Beatles. . I see it happening for "Oh Santa" down the road.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 11:44)
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