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View from here (104,202) by Bobby A from United States She has stopped using her hands when she performs live too. Her career has changed since E=MC2. Let's hope Usher (with LA. Reid influencing him) asks MC to join him on the Superbowl stage. The Superbowl event would add another accomplishment for MC. I believe it will happen because Usher mentioned her name because of the possibility that MC will be featured on a new album. (Friday 24 November 2023; 12:59) this is a reply to message 104,199

View from here (104,199) by Nikki from usa Bye Bye is when she first spent time with Nick. They were married 6 weeks later. She wasn't preggers then. That happened later. I do agree with Andrew, Mariah fell after #Beautiful and has been extra careful since. She broke her rib and dislocated her shoulder. The nerve damage she received down her left side got better, but she never stated if it fully healed, only that she did get full movement of her arm back. She's always worn high heels. They've just got higher and some of the corsets she wears aren't good for breath control. I think she's hyper focused on body structure for her diaphragm while hitting notes. (Friday 24 November 2023; 09:18)

Mariah Barbie (104,201) by Bobby A from United States Amazon has some for $117 sale price. Four thousand have been sold on Amazon in the past month. Quite pricey at a regular price of $139. (Friday 24 November 2023; 12:49) this is a reply to message 104,197

Mariah Barbie (104,197) by Daisy from USA Did anybody get a Mariah Barbie? I hope they get more stock because I missed out. (Friday 24 November 2023; 07:45)

View from here (104,200) by Jamie from UK Haha. I forgive you. She was on fire in that show, so much fun and very in the moment. (Friday 24 November 2023; 10:56) this is a reply to message 104,191

View from here (104,191) by Andrew from the UK I was actually thinking of the E=MC2 era and particularly the TMB video and the presenting of the Friday Night Project. Mariah was so animated and fun. Can you imagine what the show would be like if she presented TFNP now? Well Jamie wouldn't have gone, for a start lol and I might get his name right. I'm an idiot. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:54)

View from here (104,199) by Nikki from usa Bye Bye is when she first spent time with Nick. They were married 6 weeks later. She wasn't preggers then. That happened later. I do agree with Andrew, Mariah fell after #Beautiful and has been extra careful since. She broke her rib and dislocated her shoulder. The nerve damage she received down her left side got better, but she never stated if it fully healed, only that she did get full movement of her arm back. She's always worn high heels. They've just got higher and some of the corsets she wears aren't good for breath control. I think she's hyper focused on body structure for her diaphragm while hitting notes. (Friday 24 November 2023; 09:18) this is a reply to message 104,184

View from here (104,184) by jaker20 from US Mariah have been stiff in the last 15 years. If anything, she's moving a bit more now. I don't think its the lipo or any procedure. For me, this really started during the release of E=MC2, and my suspicion is right after her miscarriage which would be around the release of Bye Bye. She was pretty active in the Touch My Body video. When was the last time you've seen her move like that? So that is why I attribute it to her miscarriage. And I don't even think it's physical. It's more like mental or psychological or something. But hey, I am not a doctor. Because that is also the moment when she adapted this Paris Hilton/Mean Girls image: super high heels she can barely walk on, super tight skirts ripe for slips that looks uncomfortable to move in. There's a sudden change in how she carried herself in that moment, and it didn't go away, she became a mother and so forth. I would believe medications before I believe lipo, and I hope I'm wrong because I actually prefer the latter. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:16)

Billboard performance (104,198) by Daisy from USA I liked it a lot. Even if it was a backing track, the lip syncing was good. She looked like a winter Barbie. (Friday 24 November 2023; 07:47)

Mariah Barbie (104,197) by Daisy from USA Did anybody get a Mariah Barbie? I hope they get more stock because I missed out. (Friday 24 November 2023; 07:45)

View from here (104,196) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Yes I agree. I observed that the "stiffness era" began during the performances of Just Stand Up and I'm That Chick at Fashion Rocks 2008. She was never the same again. (Friday 24 November 2023; 03:41) this is a reply to message 104,195

View from here (104,195) by jaker20 from US It was a very noticeable shift. Immediately right after the TMB video, she was completely different in how she carries herself. Like I said, that video is probably the last time that we've seen Mariah move as much. So clearly whatever it is that caused her being stiff happened immediately after that. (Friday 24 November 2023; 02:25)

View from here (104,195) by jaker20 from US It was a very noticeable shift. Immediately right after the TMB video, she was completely different in how she carries herself. Like I said, that video is probably the last time that we've seen Mariah move as much. So clearly whatever it is that caused her being stiff happened immediately after that. (Friday 24 November 2023; 02:25) this is a reply to message 104,191

View from here (104,191) by Andrew from the UK I was actually thinking of the E=MC2 era and particularly the TMB video and the presenting of the Friday Night Project. Mariah was so animated and fun. Can you imagine what the show would be like if she presented TFNP now? Well Jamie wouldn't have gone, for a start lol and I might get his name right. I'm an idiot. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:54)

Stiffness (104,194) by jaker20 from US And I am entitled to call you out and exposing you for what you really are, and what I have seen you posting around here, posting, unprovoked anti-LGBTQ comments, purely for the intention of maligning the community. You should be ashamed of yourself. (Friday 24 November 2023; 01:53) this is a reply to message 104,189

Stiffness (104,189) by Edward from USA I'm entitled to say it. Yes, we, the alphabet people, can be overly sensitive and dramatic about simple shit. I didn't think about it, I didn't disguise it, I didn't imply it, I simply said it. It's not microaggression, it's me exercising my right to say whatever I want. The fact you had to reply to it just proves my effing point. And just in case you want to come with the "shut up white straight man", I'm neither white nor straight, not that there's anything wrong with that either. So, whenever I want, I'll say what's in my mind about our loving and inclusive community. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:35)

Merry Christmas (LP) (104,193) by Bobby A from United States Great gesture Weston, but the general public doesn't even know MC released Merry Christmas II You. First, Def Jam's promotion of it was very poor. L.A. Reid was not happy to hear MC wanted to do a second Christmas album. Second, you can hardly find a used CD copy of it during the holidays. Def Jam didn't produce many copies of the CD. Since 2020, you can find the vinyl version more in the stores. Finally, Merry Christmas will always out perform the sequel because of AIWFCIY. Oops, I misread your post for Merry Christmas II You. Too many glasses of Trader Joe's Two Buck Chuck. (Friday 24 November 2023; 01:13) this is a reply to message 104,192

Merry Christmas (LP) (104,192) by Weston from United States So, we finally got the ever-so-fabulous AIWFCIY to #1 after many, many years. Any ideas on how to get her flawless Merry Christmas album up to the well-deserved #1 spot on the Billboard 200 this year? I seriously feel like it could still achieve this feat. And give her that 7th #1 album. #JusticeForMerryChristmas (Thursday 23 November 2023; 23:48)

Merry Christmas (LP) (104,192) by Weston from United States So, we finally got the ever-so-fabulous AIWFCIY to #1 after many, many years. Any ideas on how to get her flawless Merry Christmas album up to the well-deserved #1 spot on the Billboard 200 this year? I seriously feel like it could still achieve this feat. And give her that 7th #1 album. #JusticeForMerryChristmas (Thursday 23 November 2023; 23:48)

View from here (104,191) by Andrew from the UK I was actually thinking of the E=MC2 era and particularly the TMB video and the presenting of the Friday Night Project. Mariah was so animated and fun. Can you imagine what the show would be like if she presented TFNP now? Well Jamie wouldn't have gone, for a start lol and I might get his name right. I'm an idiot. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:54) this is a reply to message 104,184

View from here (104,184) by jaker20 from US Mariah have been stiff in the last 15 years. If anything, she's moving a bit more now. I don't think its the lipo or any procedure. For me, this really started during the release of E=MC2, and my suspicion is right after her miscarriage which would be around the release of Bye Bye. She was pretty active in the Touch My Body video. When was the last time you've seen her move like that? So that is why I attribute it to her miscarriage. And I don't even think it's physical. It's more like mental or psychological or something. But hey, I am not a doctor. Because that is also the moment when she adapted this Paris Hilton/Mean Girls image: super high heels she can barely walk on, super tight skirts ripe for slips that looks uncomfortable to move in. There's a sudden change in how she carried herself in that moment, and it didn't go away, she became a mother and so forth. I would believe medications before I believe lipo, and I hope I'm wrong because I actually prefer the latter. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:16)

Happy Thanksgiving (104,190) by Edward from USA Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. For those who celebrate it, I hope you have a wonderful time. Be careful with the carbs. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:41)

Stiffness (104,189) by Edward from USA I'm entitled to say it. Yes, we, the alphabet people, can be overly sensitive and dramatic about simple shit. I didn't think about it, I didn't disguise it, I didn't imply it, I simply said it. It's not microaggression, it's me exercising my right to say whatever I want. The fact you had to reply to it just proves my effing point. And just in case you want to come with the "shut up white straight man", I'm neither white nor straight, not that there's anything wrong with that either. So, whenever I want, I'll say what's in my mind about our loving and inclusive community. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:35) this is a reply to message 104,188

Stiffness (104,188) by jaker20 from US Over-sensitive alphabet people? Why bring unnecessarily shady and passive aggressiveness here. This is now the 3rd time I've read these microaggressions in a few weeks and it's just so sickening. I'll leave it to the mod if you want to post this reply but for a fanbase that's heavy on LGBTQs this sure is lacking tolerance. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:29)

Stiffness (104,188) by jaker20 from US Over-sensitive alphabet people? Why bring unnecessarily shady and passive aggressiveness here. This is now the 3rd time I've read these microaggressions in a few weeks and it's just so sickening. I'll leave it to the mod if you want to post this reply but for a fanbase that's heavy on LGBTQs this sure is lacking tolerance. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:29) this is a reply to message 104,186

Stiffness (104,186) by Edward from USA Mariah mounts herself on heels so high not even the most experienced Drag Queen could walk on them. Not implying Sam Smith is a Drag Queen, just in case one of the over sensitive alphabet people might want to start a cat fight, but he seems to to be very careful when walking on those platforms he mounts himself on. Another thing, after her accident while filming the video for "#Beautiful", she's definitely being more careful. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:50)

Different vocals (104,187) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain I think I heard this some time ago. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:23)

Stiffness (104,186) by Edward from USA Mariah mounts herself on heels so high not even the most experienced Drag Queen could walk on them. Not implying Sam Smith is a Drag Queen, just in case one of the over sensitive alphabet people might want to start a cat fight, but he seems to to be very careful when walking on those platforms he mounts himself on. Another thing, after her accident while filming the video for "#Beautiful", she's definitely being more careful. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:50)

Justice for Can't Let Go (104,185) by jaker20 from US What a beautiful song. The lyrics and the beats sounds timeless. And I love her hair in the video. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:28) this is a reply to message 104,160

Justice for Can't Let Go (104,160) by Brad from USA Is any one else still pissed off this song didn't go to #1? I am. Ok bye. If we could get this song to #1 on iTunes Mariah would flip out because she knows this should have been a #1. I recall all those weeks waiting and waiting for it to pop from #2 to #1. Don't ever forget how frigging flawless that video was too. She looked so beautiful in that. (Wednesday 22 November 2023; 03:36)

View from here (104,184) by jaker20 from US Mariah have been stiff in the last 15 years. If anything, she's moving a bit more now. I don't think its the lipo or any procedure. For me, this really started during the release of E=MC2, and my suspicion is right after her miscarriage which would be around the release of Bye Bye. She was pretty active in the Touch My Body video. When was the last time you've seen her move like that? So that is why I attribute it to her miscarriage. And I don't even think it's physical. It's more like mental or psychological or something. But hey, I am not a doctor. Because that is also the moment when she adapted this Paris Hilton/Mean Girls image: super high heels she can barely walk on, super tight skirts ripe for slips that looks uncomfortable to move in. There's a sudden change in how she carried herself in that moment, and it didn't go away, she became a mother and so forth. I would believe medications before I believe lipo, and I hope I'm wrong because I actually prefer the latter. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:16) this is a reply to message 104,177

View from here (104,177) by MC1989 from Spain Maybe the extreme stiffness is due to a recent lipposuction and a recent face lift? I don't know. Maybe she's recovering from recent surgeries. Because even though since 2010 her stage performances became very low energy in terms of movements and dancing, she was never this stiff. Though I'm enjoying some iconic moments from these Christmas shows, I share your thoughts about her recent awkward stiffness and lack of face expresion. I also feel good about her success with these shows, from the videos I've seen, people are enjoying them a lot and she's singing in front of big audiences again. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:04)

View from here (104,183) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I agree on the subject of her awkward stiffness, I just can't figure out what seems to be wrong. Besides that, what I take from the concerts is that her voice is back to a level where it's actually pleasant to listen to her sing again, that makes me happy. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 17:36) this is a reply to message 104,177

View from here (104,177) by MC1989 from Spain Maybe the extreme stiffness is due to a recent lipposuction and a recent face lift? I don't know. Maybe she's recovering from recent surgeries. Because even though since 2010 her stage performances became very low energy in terms of movements and dancing, she was never this stiff. Though I'm enjoying some iconic moments from these Christmas shows, I share your thoughts about her recent awkward stiffness and lack of face expresion. I also feel good about her success with these shows, from the videos I've seen, people are enjoying them a lot and she's singing in front of big audiences again. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:04)

Never sung in her life (104,182) by Bobby A from United States Lol. I thought I was in the Why You Mad club all by myself. Future should have been on the remix to close it out. He could have rapped a bar about Ciara. I hate that I missed a chance to purchase a fan made 45 vinyl of the remix. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 14:29) this is a reply to message 104,179

Never sung in her life (104,179) by Tevin from USA As much as Infinity annoyed me, I will happily die on the hill of being a Why You Mad fan. That song should have been a single. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:51)

View from here (104,181) by Bobby A from United States That could explain why she was so quiet on social media after the Lovers and Friends concert. Also, the picture in August with Roc and Roe showed her looking different like she was recovering from something. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 14:22) this is a reply to message 104,177

View from here (104,177) by MC1989 from Spain Maybe the extreme stiffness is due to a recent lipposuction and a recent face lift? I don't know. Maybe she's recovering from recent surgeries. Because even though since 2010 her stage performances became very low energy in terms of movements and dancing, she was never this stiff. Though I'm enjoying some iconic moments from these Christmas shows, I share your thoughts about her recent awkward stiffness and lack of face expresion. I also feel good about her success with these shows, from the videos I've seen, people are enjoying them a lot and she's singing in front of big audiences again. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:04)

The JHud Show (104,180) by Bobby A from United States You think you are Russell Brand. Still got jokes this morning. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 14:15) this is a reply to message 104,175

The JHud Show (104,175) by Andrew from the UK Well, I'm assuming his name is Lexus and 2004 is when he was born. In which case: I'm impressed. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 11:30)

Never sung in her life (104,179) by Tevin from USA As much as Infinity annoyed me, I will happily die on the hill of being a Why You Mad fan. That song should have been a single. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:51) this is a reply to message 104,168

Never sung in her life (104,168) by Andrew from the UK I knew I liked you. So let's do it. "And, no, asking a singer to sing isn't a big ask, but expecting 1995 or 2000s vocals isn't going to happen no matter the critique." Please do point to the recent post that requests such vocals be produced. I'll be first in line to berate the poster for making such a silly request. Don't hold back on me now because I am lovin' me some Nasty Norman - but I, too, despise gaslighting, or as I like to label it: "flat denial of observable reality". So point to the posts and we can get past the foreplay and have ourselves a moment. "It's okay to only like her 90s stuff and nothing past that. Admit it and move on - you'll all be happier. But no need to constantly bash every effing move and call it constructive when all it is, is tearing things down." Well, Big Nasty, I'm struggling to letcha get to second base with this one so let's unpack it while we get cosy by the fire. I can't remember - nay, imagine - any of the guys, girls or Terna-based species that visit this website ever saying that they only like Mariah Carey's 90s music. It would be an absurdity. They would be, ripped, shredded, slapped... wait. I'm gonna stop that right there because I know I got Bobby A excited and this is a date for two. So pop in the relevant posts where people have stated the absurd 90s things, then pop open the Cristal so we can round third base in a bubble bath. "Now, joy to the effing world or whatever. We mostly love everyone." Big Nasty, how bloody dare you? I'm lying here, bubbles in one hand, some other kinda bubbles protecting my itty bitty dignity, waiting for you to dive in and hit a home run... and you love "mostly everyone"? Nuh uh. I'm a one guy kinda girl. Close the door, lose the key, leave the posts on the mat for me. Show is over. [How pissed is everyone right now for having that song put it into their brains? Serves you right for reading my private love letter to Big Nasty.] (Thursday 23 November 2023; 03:53)

View from here (104,178) by Terna from Nigeria Your ears have aged a tad bit now haven't they? The clip I posted, I clearly acknowledged Mariah is having some form of vocal issues, that covers the fact I know she prerecorded some parts. I just didn't want to dwell on that, unlike your toxic self that thrives in such as we can see from this post. What I was pointing out were the non Christmas songs medley she pulled out and sang live and still killed it voice problems and all. Try and be a better person. Smh. Like every other obstacle Mariah's faced and overcame which we have been witness to, this voice issue too will be a thing of the past very soon and she will blow once more like we know she can. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:28) this is a reply to message 104,170

View from here (104,170) by Andrew from the UK It isn't the lip-syncing that bothers me about the Billboard performance or the Christmas shows. You would have to be delusional with a capital Terna not to have expected there to be lipsync. And, having a PhD in Mariah Carey Lip-Sync, I was quite impressed as I had to replay certain parts to really understand if they were lip-sync or not. (They were.) But the songs sound okay from what I have watched and if people are having a ball in the auditoria then good for them. What's truly puzzling at best (and truly worrisome at worst) is Mariah's rigidity. She rarely moves. More's the point: she rarely moves to an almost inhuman degree. It was even so on the Jennifer Hudson show. I neither see nor know of *any* artist who is so frozen in expression and in movement. I don't even know of any *person* in real life who behaves so. Does anyone? It's really weird, you guys. Something is not right, here. In fact, I would go so far as to say: something is very wrong here. One of the things I loved that Mariah lost was her command of the stage and ability to entertain. She would run up and down the bloody thing, punch the invisible ghosts, slap them in the face many times when going for big notes, activate the garage doors by pressing the secret button in her ear, spin around, laugh, dance, point to people and tell them she sees them up there in the cheap seats, get excited when she can read some of the signs (do people still do signs?) and so on. Where did this go? And why? I don't think anyone is asking for 90s vocals. But I think they're sure as shit asking for 90s performances. And quite rightly so. They were bloody good fun. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 04:55)

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