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I just love finding new places to wear diamonds (109,989)
by Dove from United States
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About the diamonds, I would add even more. Maybe a diamond headband.
"I always say a kiss on the hand might feel very good, but a diamond tiara lasts forever." - Lorelei Lee
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 11:04)
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Physical copy (109,988)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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It's the best. The same with movies you really love to have on DVD or BluRay. They are like treasures. I love to read the notes in booklet or just look at the pictures too. To collect music on pysical copy is so much fun. I just ordered a Hans Zimmer CD for my soundtrack collection. And of course in september Mariah will rock the sound system.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 11:02)
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Physical copy (109,966)
by Stacey from USA
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I'll always buy a physical copy. There's just something nostalgic about opening up a new CD, taking out the liner notes and looking though them.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:06)
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Image over substance (109,987)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I have an issue with your statement regarding her looks. If anyone of the celebrities that I see, she looks more natural than any of them. I can't see lip injections, filers or whatever women torture them self with these days (Kardashians reference).
If she did had job done, she has done it pretty damn good because she looks normal and not like a cat in heat.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 10:52)
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Image over substance (109,984)
by TJ from Norway
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I agree with all you said. As you said about the walls, I think she spend too much time listening to her old music and that doesn't give her new ideas or inspiration. As Cher said when the interviewer asked her about listening to her own music, she was like "No, I'm not a big Cher fan." I have got the impression that MC is a big Mariah Carey fan. She obviously hate aging, and I believe she is obsessed about looking perfect at all time, also on stage (look at her performances in 1990-91 and compare the facial expressions then and now/or the early 2000). Some people call her a vampire because it looks like she's not aging, I would love if she didn't put all that poison in her face and rather aged naturally with grace and style. It's too much plastic now.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 09:32)
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Speaking about covers (109,986)
by Dove from United States
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I love this question. Sometimes I wish I was good at AI so I could remake these in Mariah's voice.
01.) Live and Let Die - Paul McCartney 02.) Good Vibrations - Beach Boys (with the original instrumentation) 03.) Feeling Good - Nina Simone 04.) Silver Springs - Fleetwood Mac 05.) The Chain - Fleetwood Mac 06.) We are the Champions - Queen 07.) My Tears Ricochet - Taylor Swift
I know most of these were already hits but they were hits for a reason. A good song is a good song. (I'm sorry I couldn't stick to five.)
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 10:51)
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Speaking about covers (109,972)
by Haiji from United States
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What would your top 5 songs, you think MC would sound great covering? My picks: 1. Nina Simone - I Put A Spell On You 2. Out On A Limb - Tina Marie 3. Donny Hathaway - A Song For You 4. Sade - No Ordinary Love 5. Michael Jackson - Human Nature (imagine the vocal stacking)
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:39)
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Webmaster request (109,985)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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His message was about your insult towards Stacey. It was mean so stop pretending you're a saint and that you have a good spirit. You're fooling nobody here.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 09:44)
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Webmaster request (109,968)
by Lambi from USA
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Again unbelievably inaccurate. Look at my response. I simply debunked the insinuation of me bringing "bad vibes", I've been having fun with the discussions here and really enjoy giving Mariah love. Far from "bitchy and petty diatribe".
If you actually wanna talk about petty, look at the contrast of how we treated an exiting lamb. I wished him well and your sentiment to him is, "I'm dead serious, if you go, you can never twerk with us again."
Mariah felt like an outsider and many of her fans connected to her with that. So it's safe to say a lot of lambs is simply looking for a place of connection and belonging. I mean sure, Brad may have had his moments and you can have all the disagreement you want with him but that no one should be rejoicing when someone permanently leaves. It's giving "you have no place in the fandom". You can virtue signal all you want but people can see who the true bullies are.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:18)
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Image over substance (109,984)
by TJ from Norway
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I agree with all you said. As you said about the walls, I think she spend too much time listening to her old music and that doesn't give her new ideas or inspiration. As Cher said when the interviewer asked her about listening to her own music, she was like "No, I'm not a big Cher fan." I have got the impression that MC is a big Mariah Carey fan. She obviously hate aging, and I believe she is obsessed about looking perfect at all time, also on stage (look at her performances in 1990-91 and compare the facial expressions then and now/or the early 2000). Some people call her a vampire because it looks like she's not aging, I would love if she didn't put all that poison in her face and rather aged naturally with grace and style. It's too much plastic now.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 09:32)
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Image over substance (109,970)
by ADAM from USA
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My issue with MC for the last decade or so has been she's super obsessed with her physical image - she is afraid of aging and always recreating the past. What made all her imagery great in the 90s was that it was natural, not contrieved and shot by masters of their craft. Seeing her imitate the past just reeks desperation and lazy. You get the feeling her house is labeled head to toe with all her album booklet imagery. I would have less of an issue if I felt like she would put as much effort into recorded music. I remain hopeful for new music however the small snippet of here for it all sounds really chipmunk and sliced several times to piece together one syllable. Tell me this with a callous heart I'm just trying to articulate that I think she would benefit from putting the mirror down and start putting pen of paper and work on her vocal recovery. I think she's a victim of too much cosmetic surgery and too many mirrors in the house.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:00)
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Covers (109,983)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I like all three covers because I can see the connection of previous photos of her - first one has written Glitter all over, third one reminds me of a photo shoot she did when she had lace cover over her face and the second one reminds me from a photo shot back in Butterfly era when she is sitting on couch with wavy hair and touching her toes.
Regarding the shady, bitter and bad vibes here - what do I know, I don“t even go here. And I had to google and ask my daughter what the hell does that mean.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 08:01)
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Obsessed with physical image (109,982)
by Dove from United States
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I think most women are obsessed with our physical image and not aging. Whether we admit it or not. There's a lot of pressure on us to always be beautiful and fit. If it's hard for me, I can't imagine what it must feel like for an aging celebrity.
If you look at her social media platforms she's wearing age appropriate clothes. For interviews she does the diva gowns but I feel like that's for the "character".
I don't have a problem with her wearing sexy outfits for photo shoots or videos. She looks good in them but even if she didn't - it's her own creative expression. She's an artist.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 06:55)
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More thoughts about the album covers (109,981)
by Dove from United States
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Mimi L, I was thinking about your comments about the covers (mostly because you're the one who had the most thoughts about them). It's funny to me how your opinions are so opposite to mine. (Not saying my opinions are right or better, just interesting how people can view things so differently.)
I actually really like the black leather looking outfit because it looks good on her and sorta looks like a superhero costume. I like all the diamonds because it makes me think, "She earned those diamonds." Celebrities are American royalty and not everyone can pull off wearing a huge diamond necklace. It suits who she is. Also, most people borrow jewelry for photo shoots but she actually owns those.
I get what you're saying about the power stance (and I somewhat agree now after reading your comments), but she's already done that pose on a few album covers. The easy breezy one is different than all of her other album covers. The one with the all black background looks blurry and that's why I don't like that one. My problem with the power stance picture is that her face doesn't look like her face to me. But otherwise I wouldn't mind that being the album cover.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 06:45)
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New snippet (109,980)
by Stacey from USA
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I've seen single covers for SS that have the "explicit content" warning on them. *sigh* I've never been a fan of cuss words in music. To me it adds nothing to the song. Up until a few years ago, I was always grateful MC stayed away from that trend. Now f-words are flying all over the place. End of rant, lol.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 06:19)
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New snippet (109,786)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Absolutely. "It's us, the middle aged fans, that listen to her music, and I find those kind of lyrics a little immature and not artistically deep or clever." I also don't like the "three h. a. h". It ruins the song a bit. It sounds vulgar, as a teen I wouldn't care but I prefer lyrics without that. I enjoy the remixes, but I hope the next song has more mature lyrics. I'm tired of swear words in music. I don't need it, trend or not.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 13:35)
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Mental state (109,979)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC will have her first post album announcement TV interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live Thursday with guest host, Fortune Feimster (The Mindy Project). Let's see how confident and funny she is with Fortune Feimster. MC has been in L.A. this week filming the Sugar Sweet video.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 06:14)
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Mental state (109,971)
by ADAM from USA
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I'm also highly curious what the album rollout interviews will look like. I think she has some sort of mental tick. She has not shared with the public, but I think she's had some sort of a stroke or physical laps that makes her unable to answer things in depth or recall easily. Anytime we have seen her when she answered something. It's all premeditated and not natural. I wish you just come clean and therefore you'd have the sympathy of the public and also some truth with your fan base instead of this plastic veneer and all these can terrible answers to questions that we don't care about. I think she's such an interesting figure and has so many stories that she could talk about But she is so guarded and not truthful. I really want the best for her as I feel like this is her last era of music. Hoping for the best - btw I'm obsessed with Sugar Sweet using AfroBeats it's such an ear worm of a jingle and will sound great blasting from anyone's speakers.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:05)
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Mental state (109,978)
by Giovanni from USA
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Silly Adam, this will not be Mariah's last era of music. She just signed a multi deal with Gamma.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 06:06)
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Mental state (109,971)
by ADAM from USA
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I'm also highly curious what the album rollout interviews will look like. I think she has some sort of mental tick. She has not shared with the public, but I think she's had some sort of a stroke or physical laps that makes her unable to answer things in depth or recall easily. Anytime we have seen her when she answered something. It's all premeditated and not natural. I wish you just come clean and therefore you'd have the sympathy of the public and also some truth with your fan base instead of this plastic veneer and all these can terrible answers to questions that we don't care about. I think she's such an interesting figure and has so many stories that she could talk about But she is so guarded and not truthful. I really want the best for her as I feel like this is her last era of music. Hoping for the best - btw I'm obsessed with Sugar Sweet using AfroBeats it's such an ear worm of a jingle and will sound great blasting from anyone's speakers.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:05)
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Opinions (109,977)
by JC from USA
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100%. I've be visiting for many years, rarely post, but read all the slander and often turn away. A new era is upon us. Let's indulge, enjoy the moment. This is such an exciting time.
Let's quit the negativity on here (I'm sure most non-reg posters are really over it) and support and enjoy our queen. Not targeting at everyone - I see some true excitement and support. We love everyone.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 05:27)
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Opinions (109,969)
by Johnny from Ireland
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Hey folks. Longtime visitor, infrequent poster and lifelong fan. Everyone has opinions but some seem to trump theirs over others. I'm here for the new era and everything that comes with it positive wise. Everyone relax and let's hope for the best.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:53)
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For the record (109,976)
by Lambi from USA
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If you have complete disagreements with anyone here, that's totally okay. This is just what happens in any hub. Fights break out all the time. If you happen to be emotional and make a rather deranged post, that's also totally fine, as long as you realize you made a mess and fix it afterward. Everyone forgets it and moves on.
What's not okay is insinuating things like, "You don't belong here," "Thank goodness you'll be gone," or "You have no place in this fandom." This is the language of a bully. I don't care how correct you are or how deep your MC knowledge goes. Mariah always felt like an outsider, and people become fans of hers because they too have felt like outsiders. No one should be happy to see a lamb leave on a bitter, sad note.
If you feel like you've been ganged up on and feel unwelcome, don't leave. Not everyone will respond to your every post, but the thumbs up button shows that we see you and that you're heard. Stick around. Defend your positions, respectfully of course, but do not let self-proclaimed "superior" fans because they've been around since 1901, break your spirit.
Anyway, enough of that. Happy new era to all. I'm so excited for this release. Someone said this could be Mariah's last era, and it kind of made sense and even made me a little emotional. But I'm still elated to experience a Mariah slayage in real time. Glad to be here for it all.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 05:22)
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Sugar Sweet (109,975)
by Bobby A from United States
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It's official that Sugar Sweet ft. Shenseea and Kehlani will drop Friday. This is the song that is going to do much better than TD on the Hot 100. While we wait for Sugar Sweet, let's take a look back at one of MC's biggest 2nd singles on the Hot 100. Love Takes Time spent a total of 26 weeks on the Hot 100. It was released on August 21, 1990. It peaked at #1 on November 10, 1990 and stayed there for 3 consecutive weeks. It is going to be interesting to see what Sugar Sweet does on the Hot 100 in today's streaming world.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 04:28)
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Mental state (109,974)
by Lambi from USA
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Great take. Mariah's been forthcoming about diabetes. It makes sense because she probably sits around too much. But I see her making an effort to exercise on the reel, "I'm Mariah Carey. Of course this is my work out ensemble." Hopefully working out is part of her day to day routine now, avoiding insulin resistance completely.
The months where she gives no effort on miming could've simply came from the nerve pain caused by the veneers. Maybe she's got a sensitive gum, and I can't tell you how painful that is. The doctors definitely put in work because her teeth are perfection.
The stroke issue could also be a possibility. Jamie Foxx, Justin Bieber and Tori Kelly developed some sort of blood clot after taking a certain vaccine, allegedly. And we all know which side of the political aisle Mariah probably falls on, based on her friends, so it's probably best to keep that shush.
All in all though, Mariah seems to be taking her health extremely seriously. She seems to be at a healthy weight, and is always put together flawlessly. I agree with Mimi L. She managed to reach another beauty peak. It's abnormal to look that stunningly youthful at 56. I mean that blonde bombshell look with her straightened on the T:D video is unbelievably striking.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 04:05)
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Mental state (109,971)
by ADAM from USA
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I'm also highly curious what the album rollout interviews will look like. I think she has some sort of mental tick. She has not shared with the public, but I think she's had some sort of a stroke or physical laps that makes her unable to answer things in depth or recall easily. Anytime we have seen her when she answered something. It's all premeditated and not natural. I wish you just come clean and therefore you'd have the sympathy of the public and also some truth with your fan base instead of this plastic veneer and all these can terrible answers to questions that we don't care about. I think she's such an interesting figure and has so many stories that she could talk about But she is so guarded and not truthful. I really want the best for her as I feel like this is her last era of music. Hoping for the best - btw I'm obsessed with Sugar Sweet using AfroBeats it's such an ear worm of a jingle and will sound great blasting from anyone's speakers.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:05)
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Physical copy (109,973)
by Edward from USA
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Stacey, what did we say about going off-script? You can't just go around expressing your own opinions like that, people will start thinking you're not just a mindless extension of me. Next time, wait for my email with the approved talking points. I really hate to do this publicly, but I'm afraid this calls for a light reprimand.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:58)
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Physical copy (109,966)
by Stacey from USA
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I'll always buy a physical copy. There's just something nostalgic about opening up a new CD, taking out the liner notes and looking though them.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:06)
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Speaking about covers (109,972)
by Haiji from United States
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What would your top 5 songs, you think MC would sound great covering? My picks: 1. Nina Simone - I Put A Spell On You 2. Out On A Limb - Tina Marie 3. Donny Hathaway - A Song For You 4. Sade - No Ordinary Love 5. Michael Jackson - Human Nature (imagine the vocal stacking)
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Mental state (109,971)
by ADAM from USA
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I'm also highly curious what the album rollout interviews will look like. I think she has some sort of mental tick. She has not shared with the public, but I think she's had some sort of a stroke or physical laps that makes her unable to answer things in depth or recall easily. Anytime we have seen her when she answered something. It's all premeditated and not natural. I wish you just come clean and therefore you'd have the sympathy of the public and also some truth with your fan base instead of this plastic veneer and all these can terrible answers to questions that we don't care about. I think she's such an interesting figure and has so many stories that she could talk about But she is so guarded and not truthful. I really want the best for her as I feel like this is her last era of music. Hoping for the best - btw I'm obsessed with Sugar Sweet using AfroBeats it's such an ear worm of a jingle and will sound great blasting from anyone's speakers.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:05)
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Image over substance (109,970)
by ADAM from USA
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My issue with MC for the last decade or so has been she's super obsessed with her physical image - she is afraid of aging and always recreating the past. What made all her imagery great in the 90s was that it was natural, not contrieved and shot by masters of their craft. Seeing her imitate the past just reeks desperation and lazy. You get the feeling her house is labeled head to toe with all her album booklet imagery. I would have less of an issue if I felt like she would put as much effort into recorded music. I remain hopeful for new music however the small snippet of here for it all sounds really chipmunk and sliced several times to piece together one syllable. Tell me this with a callous heart I'm just trying to articulate that I think she would benefit from putting the mirror down and start putting pen of paper and work on her vocal recovery. I think she's a victim of too much cosmetic surgery and too many mirrors in the house.
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Opinions (109,969)
by Johnny from Ireland
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Hey folks. Longtime visitor, infrequent poster and lifelong fan. Everyone has opinions but some seem to trump theirs over others. I'm here for the new era and everything that comes with it positive wise. Everyone relax and let's hope for the best.
(Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:53)
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Webmaster request (109,968)
by Lambi from USA
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Again unbelievably inaccurate. Look at my response. I simply debunked the insinuation of me bringing "bad vibes", I've been having fun with the discussions here and really enjoy giving Mariah love. Far from "bitchy and petty diatribe".
If you actually wanna talk about petty, look at the contrast of how we treated an exiting lamb. I wished him well and your sentiment to him is, "I'm dead serious, if you go, you can never twerk with us again."
Mariah felt like an outsider and many of her fans connected to her with that. So it's safe to say a lot of lambs is simply looking for a place of connection and belonging. I mean sure, Brad may have had his moments and you can have all the disagreement you want with him but that no one should be rejoicing when someone permanently leaves. It's giving "you have no place in the fandom". You can virtue signal all you want but people can see who the true bullies are.
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Webmaster request (109,959)
by Edward from USA
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TJ, I don't think you're ready for a bitchy and petty diatribe.
(Wednesday 23 July 2025; 19:14)
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Everything we know so far (109,967)
by Edward from USA
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Exactly my sentiment about "Dear Boy". When Bobby A mentioned it, I went straight to YouTube to listen to it. My first thought was, Mariah would absolutely obliterate this track. Her masterful skill at stacking up impeccable background vocals would take this song to another dimension. I loved it from the first listen, and I'm really hoping this is the song she'll cover on "Here For It All".
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Everything we know so far (109,962)
by Haiji from United States
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Ok so here are my thoughts on everything about this new album rollout. Let's start with the cover. After all 3 reveals, I'm starting to like the all black cover. Seems like most natural one out of the three. Like Mimi stated before, the first one is giving magazine cover and I kind of agree with ADAM, the D2C cover looks very AI and too modified. I forget who here mentioned that they don't care about the cover as long as the music is good. You are right, that's really what matters but hey it's Mariah, we want everything to be perfect when it comes to her. I'm hoping for more bonus tracks on the deluxe versions than just the 11-12. I'm honestly not too familiar with The Beatles nor Paul M's discography but I went to listen to a few tracks that could possibly be the cover song and I have to say, Dear Boy would probably be her best option. I felt like Live and Let Die would be just another BOTHB cover. I can already hear and imagine the vocal stacks and harmonies she would bring to Dear Boy, praying I'm right. Yall might tear me apart for this but for some reason, that 10sec teaser of Sugar Sweet isn't doing anything for me yet. It seems catchy but it's not stuck in my head like TD was with the first snippet. Imo the clip made me think instantly of Stay Long Love You, which isn't a favorite of mine. Hoping the lyrics are a bit mature because right now it's giving teen girl bop. Lastly, September seems so far away not sure if that's a good idea. The momentum needs to keep going with more releases until then if that's the case. Drop an all club versions EP of TD. Drop Sugar Sweet, with a great video and remixes, hopefully with JD. She should go on The Breakfast Club around the time of the album release to promote it. Oh and the title caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting a different type of title compared to her previous. It's alright I guess, it just doesn't catch my attention right away. Sounds more like an album cut not an album title. I'm sure I missed a few thing but I'll be back lol.
(Wednesday 23 July 2025; 20:35)
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Physical copy (109,966)
by Stacey from USA
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I'll always buy a physical copy. There's just something nostalgic about opening up a new CD, taking out the liner notes and looking though them.
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Physical copy (109,965)
by Bobby A from United States
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Jamie, go to recordstoreday.com and do a search for MC and a East coast major city zip code. There you will find vinyl record shops who will preorder the HFIA vinyl and possibly order the CD for you and ship to the UK. Also, try Vintage Stock's website and Comeback Vinyl in Atlanta and Grimey's in Nashville. Those three may ship overseas too. Also, I will help too if you can't get the variant that you want.
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Physical copy (109,965)
by Bobby A from United States
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Jamie, go to recordstoreday.com and do a search for MC and a East coast major city zip code. There you will find vinyl record shops who will preorder the HFIA vinyl and possibly order the CD for you and ship to the UK. Also, try Vintage Stock's website and Comeback Vinyl in Atlanta and Grimey's in Nashville. Those three may ship overseas too. Also, I will help too if you can't get the variant that you want.
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Physical copy (109,926)
by Jamie from UK
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Do we think the physical copy will be available in the UK too?
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 17:26)
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Registration is free.
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If you want to leave a message, there are a few rules you must follow:
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This is a Mariah Carey messageboard, so the message must be related to Mariah Carey. |
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Only messages in English will be posted. And please try to write understandable English,
with the proper use of dots and capitals. |
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Messages with all capitals will be ignored. |
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Messages that are insulting (to Mariah, other artists or members of this messageboard) will
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The webmaster has the right to refuse any message he doesn't like.
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