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Re: If it was Whitney? (101,052) (101,053) by Randy from USA I agree with most of what you've said here. But I really feel MC would be best served by doing an unplugged album that focuses on her songwriting and worn voice. Songs with very little instrumentation like Through The Rain, Cry, I Wish You Well and her great songwriting would be amazing. Take all the effects off her voice so she sounds human and not like the speaker at a drive through. Do something a la Adele. Clean. Dark. Beautiful. Universal. She has to stop with the r&b/hip hop. Even Jay-Z stopped rapping in his 50s. (Friday 26 August 2022; 12:25)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,044) (101,052) by TheWind from England A record company won't invest money in Mariah until she does or makes something that is commercially viable, and even then it would be a limited budget. Nobody wants more of the same from Mariah, including her record company, I'm sure. We as fans want no more experimental style RnB. If she decides to go the RnB route, then something akin to the late night mix of WBT is what people want. However, I do think she needs to do something fresh, and accept her current status as a legacy act. She needs to do an album of covers, or duets with a range of artists. And not with artists you'd necessarily expect her to work with. At her age you would hope she stops trying to be fresh or current with her music, because that's what actually ages her. Her output in recent years has been cringe. (Friday 26 August 2022; 10:55)

Re: A bit too much negativity (101,048) (101,051) by Lady B from USA I agree with this thread in its entirety. Some people dress it up in purported "concern", but I didn't hear much of that when MC was robbed. (Friday 26 August 2022; 06:43)

Re: Nick Cannon (101,034) (101,050) by Brad from USA The more I think about it, the more the burden that Mariah has in parenting her kids becomes clear. She is forced to walk a tight rope between the legal requirement to enable her kids to have a relationship with their father (as I am sure she would have originally wanted following the divorce) and her own convictions to raise her children to understand that their father's attitude toward sexual relations and child-bearing "relationships" is not a model to be emulated and is not generally accepted or viewed favorably or honorably by society at large. Rather, it is a misogynistic disposition that disrespects the women involved with him and devalues the children that are produced. She has to convey this to Moroccan as a potential future husband/father figure and to Monroe as a young woman who should never allow herself to be treated in such a way by a man. This is to speak nothing of how irresponsible it is to have 10 children in an age of over population and environmental degradation caused by over population. Mariah has a big challenge on her hands. We stand with you, MC. (Friday 26 August 2022; 01:44)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,035) (101,049) by The Real Deal from USA Furthermore, the Grammy's do not go by sales or chart positions. So for those that keep saying that One Sweet Day was the longest running #1 song, etc, it doesn't reflect the Grammy's position of voting. Case in point - Joni Mitchell's "Indigo Blue" wasn't even a Top 40 album prior to receiving the Album Of The Year nomination. Also, Annie Lennox "No More I Love You's" peaked at #23 on Billboard Hot 100. (Friday 26 August 2022; 00:53)

Re: A bit too much negativity (101,038) (101,048) by Mirage_Nunez from America I glad you said it. I didn't hear enough people call out Ms Darlene for trying it with the "I can still hit the notes" comment. Yeah real classy. It's giving jealous and bitter that Mariah is a bigger Christmas icon and has the most streamed version of "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)". Anywho I heard Mariah was just trademarking it for merchandise only; not to stop others from using the title, but whatever I'm neither here nor there about it. I just felt it was tasteless to come for Mariah in that way, she could've just released a classy statement while just getting her lawyers on it if she felt some type of way. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 23:31)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,046) (101,047) by TJ from Norway That was your opinion. I loved Jagged Little Pill. Still do. I also love Daydream, but in my opinion it is not as strong as Alanis' album. Mariah is my all time favourite, but that album is a diamond. And again: my opinion. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 23:17)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,042) (101,046) by MusicfanJ from Germany Back then, I hated the song "Ironic" and this kind of music by Alanis. It was just "screaming" for my ears and not real singing. I always changed the radio station when the song was played. And it was played a lot. Lol. But then the next song was "Fantasy", "ABMB" , "Open Arms" or "One Sweet Day" and everything was fine. Well, it is just a matter of taste. Isn't it? But my vote goes to "Daydream". (Thursday 25 August 2022; 19:36)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,040) (101,045) by MusicfanJ from Germany Mariah actually deserved the Grammys for "Daydream" more than any other artist at that time. Yes, there was a good competion back then, but we are talking about "Daydream". For "Fantasy" alone there should have been the award. It was Mariah's year musically, she was 24/7 on MTV, on the radio stations around the world. And then there was "One sweet day". It was Mariah mania, maybe this is one reason why they didn't get her one Grammy. Plus that her husband at that time was the boss of Sony. Pure envy. She had everything, the look, the voice, the power. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 19:22)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,039) (101,044) by Edward from USA You could be the biggest and most respected name, but if what you're putting out doesn't guarantee revenue, it would be stupid to invest your coins in said product. Would you invest a million dollars in a Mariah video other than anything related to AIWFCIY? I doubt you would. It's business. Madonna can't sell two records, but she's strong on concerts still. She makes more from a tour that what she would if she had a very successful album. Mariah is strong on Christmas, it is what it is. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 18:18)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,028) (101,043) by Tevin from USA Ok, can someone please explain why the Grammys had it out for Mariah?? I know the mess that happened in 2006, as it was revealed from an insider that she was actually supposed to win Album of the Year (hence why WBT started playing when U2 was announced), but a couple head honchos on the Grammy board or something made the decision not to give it to her, but why the hate in 96? (Thursday 25 August 2022; 16:13)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,035) (101,042) by Bill from the UK Jagged Little Pill was a phenomenal album, and deserved to win over Daydream in my view. Sorry, y'all know Mariah means everything to me, and Daydream is a superb album, but you can't take away from Alanis her well deserved achievement. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 15:20)

Re: A bit too much negativity (101,038) (101,041) by Tameka walker from United states I whole heartily agree with you, it is too much negativity lately. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 15:11)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,035) (101,040) by Terna from Nigeria "There were so many amazing albums and songs up against each other that year." And "Daydream" was the biggest of them all by a wide Margin. You don't think it was personal. How about the fact 10 years later on that same Grammy show none of her awards and acceptance speeches were televised on the main show. Coincidence? (Thursday 25 August 2022; 15:06)

If it was Whitney? (101,039) by T from USA I think everyone agrees that a legend with the status of Mariah Carey should be getting label investment on her projects, and not just the Christmas projects. Let me ask this, if the roles were reversed and it was Whitney Houston the one still alive, would she be treated like the music royalty that she is? Would she be respected by her label, given a proper push, money for videos, playlists and songs on radio? Would she be getting everything Mariah is not? (Thursday 25 August 2022; 15:05)

A bit too much negativity (101,038) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I think there has been a bit too much negativity on this board lately, and I'm the first one to admit I have been a part of it by bashing Mariah's idea to trademark the Queen of Christmas title. But hey, you guys, we are her fans, lets give Mariah some positivity. I think it's a wonderful thing to learn that she will be the next guest on Meghan Markle's talk show, even though the show has gotten negative reviews. I hope to hear a smart and confident Mariah speaking, maybe about topics she hasn't spoken about before. I would hate for Mariah to retire, and I can't believe some people here are actually praising the idea, that is exactly what women in music has to face from haters, let us not be haters, ok? I would love to hear new music from our beloved Mariah, even though her voice is not what it used to. Have you guys forgotten the BET performance, I think she sounded better than years, even having some upper chest notes in the high register. Her voice has gotten a bit thin, but I still love to watch and hear her sing. So from one fan to my idol, please Mariah, give us some new music. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 14:21)

Re: Nick Cannon (101,030) (101,037) by Edward from USA Nick is an effing joke of a man. He's being deliberately having these kids only thinking about himself. He's also being the worst role model for all of them. I'm glad Mariah removed herself from this mess. These are some of the ridiculous names he's given some of these kids: "Powerful Queen" and "Legendary Love". Lord have mercy. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 14:14)

Re: Nick Cannon (101,030) (101,036) by MusicfanJ from Germany Oh no. Unbelievable. I have no words. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 13:41)

Re: That Girl - Mariah (101,028) (101,035) by The Real Deal from USA I'm really sick of the victim aspect of the 1996 Grammys. It was not personal. There were so many amazing albums and songs up against each other that year including Daydream. They acknowledged her as having the biggest selling song of that year by having her open the show. To twist the narrative into something personal or vindictive is just silly. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 06:41)

Re: Nick Cannon (101,030) (101,034) by Brad from USA I feel so sorry for Mariah and the twins. Nick is an embarrassment to humanity. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 06:00)

Re: The Butterfly Lounge (101,032) (101,033) by T from USA I would be okay with a retirement announcement. (After one more studio album lol.) I think first a Rarities 2 this year. New album next year. Final Christmas push in 2024 to mark the 30th anniversary of Merry Christmas. And then retirement. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 02:59)

Re: The Butterfly Lounge (101,026) (101,032) by Bobby A from United States Edward, I really feel that MC is in the midst of an unannounced retirement. She doesn't have the drive anymore to release anything but new Christmas music. What if The Rarities is all that we ever get of new music? (Thursday 25 August 2022; 01:28)

Re: Mariah on Meghan Markles' podcast next week (101,029) (101,031) by Bobby A from United States Randy, MC is going to announce that Tanaka proposed to her during their recent vacation in the Hamptons. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 01:21)

Nick Cannon (101,030) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Nick Cannon is expecting his 10th child. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 00:58)

Re: Mariah on Meghan Markles' podcast next week (101,025) (101,029) by Randy from USA And let me guess what the 30 minutes will be: 20 minutes them talking about both being biracial, 5 minutes talking about Mariah's good side, lighting and her ensemble choice, 4 minutes talking about the topic "people don't know this but I write all my songs unless I'm doing a cover or something", and 1 minute talking about MC's future projects. I'm so excited I can hardly wait. (Wednesday 24 August 2022; 22:29)

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