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Re: Underated? (99,566) (99,592) by Terna from Nigeria I love Céline a lot actually, have all her English records as well, and yes as some members here have pointed out "Falling into you" is her best album. It also was my first Céline album. Lol. Having said this, I would say that she's not a versatile singer like Mariah is. The ability Carey has to dabble into multiple [genres] and come across as seasoned and believable, Céline lacks and for the most part can come across as one-dimensional. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 15:16)

Re: New era excitement and anticipation (99,587) (99,591) by T from USA Well it's her first album since going #1 again on the BB100. That alone will ignite a fire in her to make some more hits I believe. I actually think JD could really help this time around as it's been a while since they did anything together (minus Save The Day, but that was a leftover). (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 15:04)

Whitney Mariah and Celine at the Oscars 1999 (99,590) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia While now we're talking about Mariah and Celine, I just observed that, correct me if I'm wrong, the only time that the vocal trinity happened to be at the same time same place together was at the Academy Awards 1999. Just imagined if the producers wanted the vocal trinity to perform for the In Memoriam segment singing song as a tribute for the legends who passed away. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:59)

Re: Article: The story behind Mariah Carey's "We Belong Together" (99,569) (99,589) by Terna from Nigeria I always look forward to Jermaine's music production and collaborations, that man is a musical genius and has that creative magic with Mariah. The very first song they wrote together, is one of her massive hits. That in itself is a flex. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:44)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,584) (99,588) by Randy from USA Damn Bill, I just died laughing. Some of yours are fans excuses, didn't come directly from MC. And before this board starts, I really do love MC I am just part of a diva gladiator nation and whilest I rep MC my friends that are Patti and Whitney warriors slay me whenever MC steps on stage. So it's personal for me. Someone said I need to get over myself. Ima ignore that. But the person who asked why so many excuses. I've come to figure it out through research. From the beginning Mariah recorded songs until they sounded perfect. Narada Michael Walden said so in interviews. Mariah has always been a studio artist and a perfectionist. Unlike an athlete at a game or a broadway performer, Mariah can redo her vocals as much as possible but she suffers from stage fright and all those wonderful vocals on wax has made many consider her one of the greatest singers of all time, adding pressure. So of course she fails at live singing. She's created a vocal standard that no one can replicate. Including herself. I ain't mad at her for it. But what we're not gonna do is sit here and try to say on the spot with no rehearsals and no pristine conditions that Mariah could compare to Celine in 2022. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:31)

Re: New era excitement and anticipation (99,551) (99,587) by Terna from Nigeria Reminds me so much of the quiet before the "Emancipation" storm that didn't let up until at least mid 2006, and that era began early, say around February 2005, and poor miss "I don't know her" was its first casualty. Haha. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:10)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,586) by Mò from South Africa Randy and Bill, wow, lol. But I have to agree, enough about excuses. In as much as Mariah is my number 1, Celine is highly talented, humble and relatable on a human level. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 12:31)

Re: Obsessed with Nicki Minaj (99,582) (99,585) by Steven Berning from USA No. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 10:37)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,584) by Bill from the UK You forgot these: - nodules - corset too tight - bronchitis - in the middle of divorce proceedings - arm in jewel-encrusted sling - has nothing to prove - no humidifier - too many splashes beforehand (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 09:48)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,583) by Steven Berning from USA You should get over yourself. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 03:35)

Obsessed with Nicki Minaj (99,582) by T from USA Hey all. Just had a thought. We know that Mariah teamed up with Nicki in 2009 for the UOMF remix and the video and song were pretty good. But what if instead of that song she tapped Nicki to be the feature on the original Obsessed? Do you think it would've went even higher than #7 on the BB100? In stead of Gucci Mane she really could've had a smash hit if she had Nicki on the track, that's my opinion. Maybe like what a newish Jay Z was to Heartbreaker, Nicki could've been to Obsessed. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 03:27)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,581) by SM from Citizen of the World Why do you think she has so many excuses? (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 03:18)

Re: Underated? (99,577) (99,580) by Bobby A from United States This post has to be from Andrew. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 02:10)

Yours ft. Justin Timberlake (99,579) by Bobby A from United States One of my followers said that they doubt it that we will ever here [sic] the Yours remix. I don't believe that. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 02:02)

Mariah and Celine (99,578) by Randy from USA I'm sick of this. The difference between Mariah and Celine is Celine's ability to sound the same as her records live. Oh Celine lip syncs but it ain't even close to MCs master magic. Yes MC wrote her own songs. But Celine was able to sing hers. Oh I forgot. Mariah needs 8 hours of sleep. The mics turned up. The mics turned down. A heated venue. An air conditioned venue. No casket in front of her. The songs in a lower key because they sounded better higher when recording. No presence of an iconic diva requiring movement to the background. A sound crew that hasn't worked for Dick Clark for 30 years. Ear monitors that don't malfunction. Did I catch all the excuses? (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 01:07)

Re: Underated? (99,570) (99,577) by TheWind from England Did Celine Dion write or produce anything in Falling Into You? Show Mariah's pen game some respect. I agree that she hasn't written anything of real substance in some time, but don't dismiss everything she did in the first 15 years of her career to just to make a point that compares her level of talent to Celine's. Celine has had a great career and is very talented, but Mariah has had every right to be arrogant about her songwriting. It did set her apart, it does set her apart and those songs have stood the test of time. It takes a supreme level of talent to sing, write and produce at the level Mariah did, even if she hasn't done that in 10 years or so. It's worth remembering that Mariah wrote and produced more number ones on her debut album than Celine or Whitney did combined for the whole of their careers. And to be clear, I really like them all. They are all very talented, but Mariah's artistry is unique and gives her a different edge when comparing them. We as fans, myself included, can sometimes take for granted the levels Mariah showed. Just because we don't see it much anymore, doesn't mean we shouldn't respect that she had that in her locker. Every year she has a song she wrote in 1994 go to number one. She is timeless. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 00:37)

Re: Article: The story behind Mariah Carey's "We Belong Together" (99,569) (99,576) by T from USA Mariah created great songs that could've been hits on Caution. It takes more than a great song for her. It takes a massive investment in promotion and nobody is willing to invest anymore. If she featured Drake or Rihanna then maybe the case could be made for a major push. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 00:00)

Re: Underated? (99,572) (99,575) by T from USA Mariah would never include Celine for fear of being out shined on her own album. It's a sad fact but also we're dealing with someone who is very insecure to start. (Monday 31 January 2022; 23:58)

I have a theory (99,574) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Listen guys, I think the reason why Mariah's voice has declined the last couple of decades or three, is because she started out completly insecure of herself, but through the years, she has somewhat recuped herself. I have had the similar journey, also bipolar, also the first breakout around my 30th birthday. (Monday 31 January 2022; 22:26)

Re: Underated? (99,572) (99,573) by Bill from the UK After how she spoke about her in her memoir over ArethaGate, I doubt it (Monday 31 January 2022; 22:05)

Re: Underated? (99,570) (99,572) by Matty from Vancouver Canada That's a great point. Mariah was covered in the press as the new Whitney (much like Ariana was being touted as the New Mariah when she started), where as Celine being white and French Canadian was never compared to Whitney in that way. It's funny though because Whitney and Celine's voices have much more similar qualities then Mariah's. Celine has always been vocal about wanting to collaborate with Mariah. I wonder if Mariah ever does a duets album if she'd include her? (Monday 31 January 2022; 21:51)

Re: Underated? (99,570) (99,571) by Bill from the UK Yes, in spite of how people may feel about Celine and her music, nobody can really say she's a bad singer. You may not like her delivery or style, but she is a very talented and intelligent vocalist. I find her music a bit "samey", but I did have the Falling Into You album and agree it is a great album, especially the title track. (Monday 31 January 2022; 21:00)

Re: Underated? (99,568) (99,570) by JC from USA The OP brings up valid points in the fact their careers are shaped similarly. The key difference for me is that Celine was always riding the adult contemporary wave, while Mariah embraced her more urban sound in 1997, much to the disappointment of many. I do think Renee and Tommy both saw artists like Whitney and polished their own versions in a supreme female vocalist. Celine is culturally different, being French Canadian, and has done a beautiful job crossing over. Mariah came out as a "Whitney" type but as the last responder failed to mention, they quickly changed course by Music Box. Mariah Carey and Emotions have deeper, more gospel tones whereas she begins using more of a chest/head mix with her voice during Music Box and all subsequent years. They realized they needed a distinction. Celine has a beautiful voice for someone to say they "hate" her voice or songs is incredibly biased. I do think Mariah's probably always had a bit of an ego for writing her own music but nothing she's written in the past 10 years compares to Falling Into You in terms of composition. Her writing has gotten very messy in terms of word choice and structure. Falling Into You was Celine's Daydream. I love them both. Not one is better than the other, just different. (Monday 31 January 2022; 13:51)

Article: The story behind Mariah Carey's "We Belong Together" (99,569) by Lainsky from Philippines Reading this archive story made me think. If Mariah and Jermaine can do two amazing songs in just two days and another two more amazing songs in just another two days, can't they do it again? At least for her upcoming album, if there's any. Perhaps, they just need someone to push them like Reid or some sort of inspiration to make another sure-fire number one hit. (Monday 31 January 2022; 03:41)

Re: Underated? (99,566) (99,568) by RibbonB from USA They are very different, they look and sound very different. Celine was groomed as a very young girl and then married Rene. And I'm not sure if in a good way, but they lasted. I found that very weird. Mariah seems to respect and even envy the freedom and "vitality" of the careers of Janet and Mary J. Blige. And that's based on her comments during the Janet doc. And on her previous statements of MJB. I'm sure she likes Celine, but she doesn't seem to model her career on Celine's. Motorola may have tried to model Rene and he made it clear he thought he had snagged a Whitney "type" in Mariah. Full disclosure, I hate Celine's voice and songs, but I love Mariah's. (Monday 31 January 2022; 00:35)

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