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Re: New material (97,943) (97,951) by Stacey from USA Honestly I never took what Andrew said seriously or personally. I could care less what he wrote sitting behind his computer screen, on his phone, tablet, whatever. He was thousands of miles from me. He was a person I'd never meet. I could care less if he said something snarky to me. He's just a bunch of words on my phone. So why take anything he said so personally? He never bothered me because I never let him "get to me". When I first started interacting online at age 24, I took so personally things faceless people said to me online. I guess at age 43 now comes with it experience. I value more those relationships I have in person. That's real life. Not what some unknown person posts online. Peace out. (Saturday 8 May 2021; 08:05)

Favorite interlude (97,950) by Lady B from USA Pick one (that's what makes it interesting - don't post a list!). I'm going with Languishing. Very powerful. (Saturday 8 May 2021; 07:31)

Re: New material (97,943) (97,949) by RibbonB from USA Oh Edward, no one is intimidated by all that bloviating. But while he is on his third or fourth banishment, many of us have shunned him long ago as a time waster and race baiter. Shrug. (Saturday 8 May 2021; 05:26)

Re: New material (97,941) (97,948) by Terna from Nigeria How long have you been posting here? Not very long I can tell. This isn't the first nor even the second time Andrew has been banned and yet just like cancer, he keeps coming back, thus my rhetorical statement. (Friday 7 May 2021; 17:48)

Re: New material (97,943) (97,947) by Anonymous from UK Edward, I think you're right in that Andrew made some very good, thoughtful points, and I genuinely believe he contributed a lot to this board, but I don't think people being "intimated" by him had anything to do with them being unable to debate him, and more to do with the arrogance with which he garnished his responses. For example, instead of just replying to a post directly and without bitchiness, he could never resist throwing in an insult or derogatory remark of some kind, be it an un-researched/unfounded slant on race, a projection of his own psychological beliefs, or rudely applying nicknames/"pet names" as a means to put an individual down in tone but not words (this aside from the general condescending tone in which he writes). Combining that with his apparent general intelligence and determination to have his say/the upper hand, meant that (for me, at least) even just reading Andrews posts was emotionally exhausting at times, let alone responding to them and getting into it (take him pissing about with the Honey lyrics as an example of how he'll expend others energy just to get a laugh - and that wasn't even a negatively tainted convo). Saying that, and coming back to the start of my post, I once said (maybe on my old account) that I don't believe Andrews intentions are genuinely nasty, nor do I think he realises what a dick he comes across as sometimes. When called out on his level, the joke stops and he, albeit rarely, accepts points, and demonstrates kindness and sensitivity, as, obviously, he is inherently a good person. But I also believe he's a product of his societal environment... to get an idea of where Andrew gets his turn of phrase/opinions, head over to dailymail.co.uk and read one of the opinion pieces. They scream Andrew - arguments with heavily subjective and biased opinions, peppered with insults towards the subject, all put together with eloquence so as to appear as factual or genuinely and objectively considered. Either way, I know I've just contributed my 2 cents, but, to be honest, Andrew's getting far too much airtime since being ostracised, and I'm sure he's loving it, whilst watching from a VPN (Hi Hun!). Let's leave him for "The Meaning of MCArchives", although I'm sure that just like last time, we'll see him soon. On another note; Eric, I was only thinking early this week that it's mad, and exceptional, that you've given so much of your time and energy to this project all these years. I really rate you. Thank you, as ever, for the work you put in to this community. (Friday 7 May 2021; 17:27)

Re: New material (97,943) (97,946) by Leo from LAMBville Edward, like I said in part of my reply on: Re: Andrew's one trick pony (4/7/21) "He is very intelligent, maybe very educated but his social ineptitude appears may be driven by lack of personal acceptance? I would enjoy his well written and journalistic approach to valid critiques of Mariah projects and others opinions (even if disagree) if it wasn't for the majority uncouth interactions." I think Andrew's pain was so deep rooted and rather than having dialogue he created a show that he starred as the "clown" of. I think we could all be a little more subjective going forward however, the majority of us that are fans of Mariah are okay and almost embrace the things most would consider a fail. She could literally release an album speaking the alphabet and I would support it. (Thursday 6 May 2021; 21:31)

Re: Looking for a live rendition of "My All" (97,942) (97,945) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain Australia 2013. Enjoy! (Thursday 6 May 2021; 21:15)

Re: Looking for a live rendition of "My All" (97,942) (97,944) by 123 from USA She did this a a lot during the SSFT 2016 in most cities. (Thursday 6 May 2021; 20:36)

Re: New material (97,941) (97,943) by Edward from USA Now that the board will be full of posters and unwavering positivity, we should all rejoice. I don't condone Andrew threatening anybody let alone Eric, but he definitely made great points and made the board less boring. Many called him out when they had to, justifiably so, but the majority were simply intimidated by him. You can call him whatever, you can hate him, but most people here couldn't debate him, and that made them angry. I disagreed with him on many things, I didn't like some things he said, but I also appreciated his insight and input. It was about balance. I appreciate Eric for having kept this website up and running for so long, and respect his decision too, I think he's always been fair with all of us, and for that, I thank you Eric. If Andrew came back with the moniker Cancer, I know Tourette Syndrome would rampant on this board. (Thursday 6 May 2021; 18:19)

Looking for a live rendition of "My All" (97,942) by Anthony from France Hi everyone. I have been desperately looking for a live version of "My All" in which Mariah ends the "Baby can you feel me" line much higher than usual. I think it sounded so beautiful that I would like to find it somewhere. I have no idea when/where she sang it. I hope one of you can help. Thank you so much. (Thursday 6 May 2021; 16:17)

Re: New material (97,939) (97,941) by Chicago Lamb from USA I don't mind Andrew's presence here. He's entertaining, fun to read and ultimately should be taken with a grain of salt. Don't like nastiness? Don't engage it. Only want positivity? Don't read his posts. However, he shouldn't be allowed to wield threats to Eric or anyone else on the board. So it's a balancing act our awesome WebMaster has had to undertake. (Thursday 6 May 2021; 13:48)

Re: AYNAF (97,938) (97,940) by We are lambily from USA I know right, it was everything. Pose is an amazing show and it is so captivating. [Anytime you need a friend] really is one of the songs along with Butterfly and [Can't take that away] that made me a lamb. Just pure magic, MC is really one of the greatest to ever do it. We need to give her flowers now. Ps: I need Mariah's music more in tv shows. (Wednesday 5 May 2021; 23:18)

Re: New material (97,926) (97,939) by Terna from Nigeria And just like cancer, he'll be back now won't he Eric? (Wednesday 5 May 2021; 18:14)

AYNAF (97,938) by Myles from CT, USA Anyone catch it being played on Pose this week? So beautiful! (Wednesday 5 May 2021; 17:14)

Re: New material (97,934) (97,937) by Stacey from USA Really? SMH. (Wednesday 5 May 2021; 05:08)

Re: New material (97,933) (97,936) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I'm thoroughly disturbed by this and Eric I'm sorry you had to experience that while all you were trying to do was give the lambs a nice safe place to discuss their love for Mariah. Just wanted to let you know I appreciate you and thank you for taking the time to keeping this board alive. (Wednesday 5 May 2021; 04:37)

Re: New material (97,934) (97,935) by Lady B from USA Indeed. I'm really glad he's gone. It's in keeping with the "Be Nice or Leave" mantra. I think there will be some good surprises on the music front this year. Can't wait! (Wednesday 5 May 2021; 01:50)

Re: New material (97,933) (97,934) by Bobby A from United States That was very threatening. (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 23:47)

Re: New material (97,926) (97,933) by Edward from USA Eric, would you post what Andrew wrote to you? I'm curious. [Webmaster: "Everyone and everything can be found. Young or old. Down to the number on the door."] (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 22:20)

Re: Mimi, abundance, etc (97,928) (97,932) by Bill from the UK Great summary of the year. MC30 was an amazing treat, and I don't think I'll ever get over The Rarities and hearing "new" 1990 vocals on Here We Go Around Again. That song is sublime. Although the end of it is iffy. (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 21:31)

Re: Mimi, abundance, etc (97,928) (97,931) by Leo from LAMBville Nikki, I wholeheartedly agree! MCArchives has always been a place of enjoyment! Most don't even recognize the amount of work that goes into maintaining a fan site, never-mind the effort to maintain a friendly environment. I agree so much with what you said about Mariah and I do hope she is living her best life with her projects both professionally and personally; she deserves it! (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 21:22)

Re: Fave live performances (97,923) (97,930) by Bill from the UK Always here for a list. In no particular order: 1. If It's Over at the Grammy's in 1992. 2. I'll Be There on Top of the Pops in 1992. 3. America the Beautiful at the NBA Finals in 1990. 4. Hark the Herald Angels Sing on GMA 1991. 5. Joy to the World at St. John the Divine 1994. Bonus: The entire London concert of the Daydream tour in Wembley Arena in 1996, which I attended. (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 19:46)

Re: New material (97,926) (97,929) by Shezz from Pk Drew Drew Drew Drew Drew. (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 18:47)

Mimi, abundance, etc (97,928) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa Hey lambs, it's been a minute. Thank you webmaster for keeping this space enjoyable at all costs, your last message was a refreshing relief. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels more inclined to post now. Can you all believe what our girl gave us in 2020? The live snippets, the at-home concerts, mashups, encouraging words, MC30. And then she drops the memoir. The memoir to me, was a backdrop to her music catalogue. So much of it was written in the same vein as some of her music. How often to we get to see the person behind the music, in their own words, while they are still young yet so accomplished? Her struggle is real and I loved the memoir so much. That said, the writing and live reading process had to be immensely healing for her, she's even said it herself. There is no way that this healing wouldn't affect her art. I cannot wait to see what she writes about in her new songs and music. And even better, she has been resting and healing her instrument. I can't even. She is on fire in a whole new way, a slow burn, and I can't even know what to say about it. She's been growing up again and I'm so here for it. And then there was The Rarities. I love this set so much. The music is great, so cool to hear her float through the back hallways of so many of her eras passed. The closure that it brings to a chapter(s) of her career, the celebration, the reveals, it's just so good. And the black and white cover makes it seem as if it's ancient history, a timeless masterpiece. She is an artist anew for MC16. I have a feeling she is reinventing herself for this new era. I just really wanted to acknowledge how much she shared and gave and created in 2020. She seems full of life and love and grounded in a whole new way. This board has been a gem in so many ways. We are music and art enthusiasts. We just like having a space to dive in deeper and appreciate the intricacies of her music that the casual listener doesn't notice. Let's keep this space as special as it is. (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 17:02)

Re: New material (97,926) (97,927) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Threatening? That sounds disturbing. (Tuesday 4 May 2021; 15:45)

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