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Re: Song replacements (96,134) (96,141) by Hector from Mexico
Mariah Carey
Replace: You need me
With: Here we go around again

Music Box
Replace: I've Been Thinking About You
With: All I live for

Music Box
Replace: Never forget you
With: Do you think of me

Daydream
Replace: Long ago
With: Slipping away

Glitter
Replace: Reflections
With: Out Here On My Own

E=MC2
Replace: O.O.C.
With: Cool On You

MIAMTEC
Replace: Supernatural
With: Mesmerized
(Monday 12 October 2020; 23:01)
Re: Song replacements (96,134) (96,140) by T from USA
I would've definitely had Cool On You on EMC2. As for MIAMTEC I would've done a pretty big overhaul (to bring out throwback sound even more):

1. Cry
2. Faded
3. Dedicated (ft. Nas)
4. #Beautiful (ft. Miguel)
5. Make It Look Good
6. You're Mine
7. You Don't Know What To Do
8. Thirsty
9. Mesmerized
10. Lullaby Of Birdland
11. Meteorite
12. The Art Of Letting Go
(Monday 12 October 2020; 22:57)
Re: Trash (96,124) (96,139) by MusicfanJ from Germany
The "funny" thing is nobody here would think Mariah is black. Most of the people who are not fans doesn't even know she's mixed. Maybe that bothers her, I don't know. She's a beautiful woman with the most beautiful smile and eyes. #10] Perfect genes.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 22:49)
Song orders on albums to include Rarities tracks (96,138) by The Real Deal from USA
How would you order the tracklisting on her original albums to include "The Rarities" tracks? Here is how I would do it.

Mariah Carey - Put "Here We Go Around Again" after "Vanishing".

Emotions - Put "Can You Hear Me" after "Around You".

Music Box - Dreamlover, Hero, Anytime You Need A Friend, Music Box, Now That I Know, Do You Think Of Me, All I Live For, Never Forget You, Without You, Just To Hold You Once Again, I've Been Thinking About You, Everything Fades Away, All I've Ever Wanted

Daydream - Fantasy, Underneath The Stars, One Sweet Day, Open Arms, One Night, Always Be My Baby, I Am Free, When I Saw You, Long Ago, Slipping Away, Melt Away, Forever, Daydream Interlude, Looking In, Fantasy (ODB Remix)

Glitter - I would put "Out Here On My Own" after "Twister".

E=MC2 - I would put "Cool On You" after "Side Effects".

MIAMTEC - I would put "Mesmerized" right after "Meteorite".
(Monday 12 October 2020; 22:40)
Everything Fades Away (96,137) by enwar00 from usa
Out of the three b-sides this is the one I was least excited for, but I seem to have found what I'll call a newfound re-appreciation of it. As the chill of Fall has teased us here recently this song has brought me a warm, relaxing yet somewhat haunting feeling, like the audio equivalent of a fire burning in a fireplace. I'm glad it's found it's home on The Rarities for me.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 22:32)
Memoir positive forces (96,136) by Lady B from USA
So who do we think were positive forces in the book? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the negative people, but who did you think looked good? Anyone surprise you?

I really liked how close she felt about her cousins on Alfred Roy's side that were around her age. And the black HS classmates who stood up for her.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 22:30)
Re: Trash (96,119) (96,135) by enwar00 from usa
I love the title track, Falling Into You. It wasn't a single here in the States and I never had that album but I've discovered it over the years on YouTube and like the chill, percussive vibe of it. Ok time to go listen to it.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 21:46)
Song replacements (96,134) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa
If you were able to replace a track that made it onto an MC album with a Rarities track from that same era, what would it be? You can do as many as you'd like, I'll choose 5:

Music Box
Replace: I've Been Thinking About You
With: Do You Think of Me

Glitter
Replace: Twister
With: Out Here On My Own

E=MC2
Replace: I Stay In Love
With: Cool On You

MIAMTEC
Replace: You're Mine
With: Mesmerized

MIAMTEC
Replace: One More Try
With: Lullaby of Birdland
(Monday 12 October 2020; 21:43)
Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,133) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa
This is a hard question. The part of me that wants her to go in the jazz direction wishes she would release Lullaby of Birdland to jazz radio. But as far as mainstream single release I would go with Cool On You and Do You Think of Me. (Adult R&B radio would eat this up. Quiet Storm anyone?)
(Monday 12 October 2020; 21:26)
Re: Trash (96,119) (96,132) by RibbonB from USA
Here's a good review.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 21:15)
Re: Trash (96,124) (96,131) by RibbonB from USA
Currently that is the standard practice to capitalize black. There are efforts to capitalize white as well, but it's common practice. Social constructs often change over time.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 21:04)
Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,130) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
I'd go for the ones that she can perform with her current voice:

Close My Eyes - The 2020 version is nowhere near the perfection as the original album version, and it does seem like an odd choice for release, but it's her story and it does tie in with everything #MC30. If there's anything that this version has over the 1997 one, it's that certain kind of conviction that can only be gained from experience.

Cool On You - This sounds like the song that would fit the current soundscape. Sassy enough for the younger generation; lyrically simple and straightforward. Of all the songs on the album, it seems the one most likely to go viral via a Tik Tok moment ala Say So or Mariah's own Obsessed. This would work perfectly when performed after A No No.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 20:13)
Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,129) by Bill from the UK
Mesmerized and Here We Go Around Again for the nostalgia. How about you Jade?
(Monday 12 October 2020; 19:36)
Re: Trash (96,114) (96,128) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa
Um. idk where you are getting your info from but this is completely false. The "rule" was a way to keep anyone with black lineage as inferior to "pure whites". Articles on the history here and here. There's plenty of legitimate information out there on this. Please educate yourself before making ludicrous claims in a public space.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 19:32)
Re: Promo tour (96,073) (96,127) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa
Also in her sky blue robe singing Fly Like A Bird snippet. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, radiant, comfy, clear skin, fresh face, so damn beautiful. This may actually be the best she's looked in at least 5 years in my humble opinion.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 19:19)
Re: Trash (96,115) (96,126) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa
Well written Jade. And I agree. I am from the U.S. and the one drop rule was not created by black people. We all knew about it growing up and we thought it was so unfair. It was as if black blood was tainting, therefore it just takes one drop. This system was in no way whatsoever validating or enjoyed by us.

It's sad actually and it has been carried on for generations. My family was close with another family where I grew up, they ended up having twin daughters my age. The grandmother was a brown skin black woman, she was my piano teacher as a child. She married a fair skin black man to offset her darker skin. They had a son who was fair, he married a white woman and they had the twins (I am still very close to them). And as the girls grew up, they knew that their family would allow them to date whomever, but they were expected to marry white. I remember when we were growing up, they dated only white, their friends were mostly white, but then they would sneak out and "hang out" (smoke and drink and listen to music)with the black guys and proudly proclaim that they were half black too. It always reminded me of Mariah's hip hop remix moments and how I pictured they came about (this was in the late 90s in h.s., Mariah was our soundtrack.

Anyway, I say all that to say that in the U.S. people still have major complexes about race, one drop rule, and lessening that drop through the generations. Not all, but it's prevalent. The one drop rule is common knowledge here in the black/mixed race communities, not because we celebrate it but because we have been unfairly affected by it.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 19:07)
Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,125) by The Real Deal from USA
Although "Can You Hear Me", "Here We Go Around Again", and "All I Live For" are my favorites from the album, I think the overall single choices for today's radio should be "Cool On You" and "Mesmerized". FYI, I know that I will be beat down for saying this, but "One Night" doesn't do it for me at all, and "I Pray" sounds more fitting as an interlude, rather than as a single.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 18:44)
Re: Trash (96,115) (96,124) by Bill from the UK
It's clear from the memoir that Mariah does identify as predominantly black, but this has been evident for years in her musical leanings, her style, the company she keeps, and the way she speaks and conducts herself. What was interesting for me was that every reference to "black" was capitalised throughout the memoir, yet "white" wasn't. I'm not really sure yet how I feel about that.

Ultimately, it is Mariah's perception, and is therefore real to her and is her truth from her perspective.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 18:41)
TMOMC (96,123) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
I actually got the chance to read the entire book within a three day span. I felt all kinds of emotions during, and after the reading process. I hate that little Mariah had to endure so much, but through all of that the Mariah we know today has emerged. I am glad that Mariah was able to find her center, and peace. I will not tear down Mariah’s experiences because of the way she has chosen to handle certain things that happened to her. I will leave it here I enjoyed the memoir, and I am glad that Mariah was able to share this with us in the way she felt that she needed to.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 18:41)
Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,122) by Federico Abril from Perú
Cool On You might be great. Slipping Away would be fun but dunno. Too old sounding for now. I don't think a ballad can be a possibility as Out Here On My Own is still on promo.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 18:29)
Re: Re: Trash (96,111) (96,115) (96,121) by Federico Abril from Perú
I think talking about race is a delicate subject. I think the book portrays that and so, it's her experience in a time where definitions weren't around. It is nowadays when things are clearer. She's mixed race and she identifies herself as black. I'm latino and closer to white skin, but I am not white, my parents are not and though sometimes I'm passing I don't identify as white. I don't know why we should define what she is, free world, right?

About not taking the blame, well, she's a woman, mixed race, in a bad relationship over 7 years or so, we all know the story. I don't think she needs to be victimized over and over again by taking blame in her own memoir. Is it her fault everything that happened wrong in her life? Sure. But hey, it's her point of view and she's Mariah.

About Glitter and her responsibility in it, I'm a screenwriter, I know things that happen when movies come out, specially those commercial projects, she's not saying anything new. I re wrote entire scripts or librettos based on producer's taste or knowledge, even sometimes compromising the original idea or creators. It's about business. Maybe she can say I smurfed up some more in some opportunities but Glitter is a commercial project, with high expectations and so. There are many hands involved and if you signed a contract and there are producers and handlers which supposedly know what they're doing. Well, let me tell you big companies like Sony produce many shit to get a hit, their quality control isn't high because money can be spent, Glitter didn't make Sony failed, that's why I assume if the project wasn't great, they didn't care at all. She knew it was weak, but hey she trusted her gut and people around her but she's a musician and so we all know the story.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 18:22)
Re: Trash (96,114) (96,120) by RibbonB from USA
Did you read any history books that said it was created for financial gain, by slave owners who raped the women, but in order to maintain their property deemed their own offspring as slaves and therefore black? Just because the origins of things and oppression create a social construct that becomes inconvenient for white people, doesn't mean it hasn't affected the oppressed in more permanent ways. Social constructs change over time, but it's interesting that the construct of racism and so called white supremacy, remains strong. Some of y'all believe that lie and fight for it even to your, or their own detrement. Like the people who get mad when people say black lives matter. Hating a slogan because they just want to feel central at all times.
(Monday 12 October 2020; 17:51)
Re: Trash (96,070) (96,119) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
It is very simple: Celine matched Aretha's notes and sang with her for her own personal fun and the entertainment of the crowd on "Natural Woman". She didn't sing over Aretha, she didn't embarrass her nor was she rude to her. She sang so because she was capable. Mariah was incapable. Fast forward two decades and Mariah throws Celine, one of the nicest vocalists in music, who has only ever been nice to Mariah, under a bus, in interview and now in a book. And then, like everything else in Mariah's life now, she had made it about race. Ahem, sorry, "culture". Can anyone point to negative comments about these 10 seconds in history made by Shania Twain? Gloria Estefan? Carole King? A music journalist?

Unfortunately, Mariah has shown herself here to be an unreliable witness and just a bit of a bitch. And a racist one at that. Whitney on that stage would have sung her ass off. And I would bet the farm Mariah would be yasss-queening Whitney and kissing her ass as usual.

Furthermore, nobody owed Aretha "respect" by standing there like an idiot and not singing how they wanted to. Celine Dion is one of the best selling, if not *the* best selling, female artists of all time. And in 1998 she was the biggest star in the world. And she needed to check herself? Oh, please.

MC needs to check herself and especially her self-delusion and belief that everyone in the world is a gullible fool. Some sense of humility and some sense of reality would not go amiss. And were I her I would now be praying that Celine et al. do not erite their own memoirs and mention Mariah's voice.

I'm off to listen to Celine Dion's album Falling Into You which won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year a year before Diva's Live was filmed. I especially like track 8. "What's track 8 called?" I hear you ask. Oh, it's a little ditty called "(You Make Me Feel Like A) Natural Woman".
(Monday 12 October 2020; 17:26)
Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,118) by IheartMC from USA
Great question, if we were lucky to get two new singles, my choices are below. I have to say, our girl really blessed us this year with great music. The Rarities is a well done project. How many artists can make a great project of unreleased material. Not many.

Next two singles: Both have great appeal for this generation while still being true to her artistry.
Cool On you
Mesmerized

5 fave tracks on the album:
All I Live for (such a great feel)
Cool On You (could be a hit)
Lullaby of birdland (infectious)
Out Here on my own (all the feels)
Everything fades away/Can you hear me (both are so majestic)

Honorable mentions:
Slipping away
I Pray
(Monday 12 October 2020; 17:20)
Next single from The Rarities (96,117) by Joe from United Kingdom
If you had to pick 2 more songs to be released as singles what would they be?
(Monday 12 October 2020; 15:57)

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