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Re: Wish/Could've beens list #1s (98,730) (98,733) by Bill from the UK Love this idea. That white dress needs to come back into rotation. (Tuesday 12 October 2021; 21:25)

Re: Allure (98,731) (98,732) by MusicfanJ from Germany "Crazy how Mariah's sound is instantly recognizable even when she isn't singing." Yes Terna, it's so true. That's her unique MC style that I love so much from day one. Songs from the vault 97-98 are really needed. There must be hidden gems from that era. (Tuesday 12 October 2021; 13:34)

Re: Allure (98,726) (98,731) by Terna from Nigeria This is so random, for you to mention them out of the blue as I have been playing and singing "Last Chance" the greater part of this month randomly, that song is written and sung beautifully. I once played it for a die hard Céline Dion fan friend of mine and he went "It sounds so Mariah, It's near perfect." Lol. Crazy how Mariah's sound is instantly recognizable even when she isn't singing, her sense of melodies and what works musically is 2nd to none. If there's a version of hers in the vault I hope she releases it together with other songs recorded during that time period - '97/98 that era wasn't represented on the first rarities. (Tuesday 12 October 2021; 12:37)

Re: Wish/Could've beens list #1s (98,704) (98,730) by Jamie from UK Late to the debate but Emotions album is one my favourites, always has been. I personally feel it sounds more soulful and deep. The ballads are more meaningful and powerful. Love love love "Till the end of time" and "So blessed". Even the cover I find more classic and oozes quality. I would love to have seen an album showcase in a small venue like "the Tatoo Club" of just songs from Emotions and her wearing that white dress. (Tuesday 12 October 2021; 10:01)

Re: Allure (98,726) (98,729) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia I really hope Mariah's demo of the songs she wrote for others are still available in the vault. The following are the songs she wrote for others that I would love to hear: 1. Allure - Last Chance 2. Blaque - Don't Go Looking For Love 3. Faith - Where Are You Christmas (Tuesday 12 October 2021; 04:50)

Re: Allure (98,727) (98,728) by Bobby A from United States I bet she recorded a demo for Blaque's Don't Go Looking For Love. I would love to hear that demo as well. (Monday 11 October 2021; 23:48)

Re: Allure (98,726) (98,727) by Bill from the UK I bet MC recorded a demo for Head Over Heels. The background vocals/layering that goes on in that song is so Mariah. Also the ad-libs as well. Would love to see that on Rarities 2 as I always imagined her singing it. That and, of course, Where Are You Christmas. (Monday 11 October 2021; 21:12)

Allure (98,726) by MusicfanJ from Germany I really like this group. I have bought an "ear book" about New York, it has CD's with typical music from the city like Jazz, Swing, RnB, Hip-Hop with three songs from Allure. Very cool. I always hear Mariah when I listen to Allure. I wonder if MC has a song from Allure completely sung by herself. We just need a Rarities part two. (Monday 11 October 2021; 18:17)

Re: Speaking to the choir (98,724) (98,725) by MusicfanJ from Germany I was thinking the same. Her songwriting is one reason I became a fan beside her outstanding voice, aura. I love her early lyrics so much and of course the "Butterfly lyrics". I miss those kind of lyrics, that were really poetic. We all know her voice changed, but why those beautiful lyrics? What she created with Walter was magic. I wish she would find another "Walter" a great musician who would inspire her. Than she could do a jazz album or soul-pop album with great lyrics. One can dream. (Monday 11 October 2021; 12:35)

Speaking to the choir (98,724) by Bobby A from United States Mimi's songwriting has not been the same since she stopped writing with Walter A. We probably will never get another Daydream or Butterfly album. Her songwriting was impeccable back then. She probably will never admit that Walter A. inspired her when he sat at that piano. Just my thoughts after listening to Infinity. Maybe I am wrong. MC16 might take us back. (Monday 11 October 2021; 09:13)

Re: Adele (98,721) (98,723) by Bobby A from United States You are so right. Adele might just end up with the biggest selling album of 2021 with just six weeks of sales. (Monday 11 October 2021; 08:16)

Re: Mimi is also immature (98,712) (98,722) by Stacey from USA Exactly. Navigating the junior high to high school years is hard enough without adding the craziness with social media. My daughter just turned 13. My hubby and I got her a phone, her first one. No social media. She can try Instagram once she hits high school then Facebook once she's an adult and decide for herself. (Monday 11 October 2021; 03:07)

Re: Adele (98,720) (98,721) by SM from Citizen of the World Adele will own the whole month or so after that date lol. "Hello" also spent 10 weeks at #1. Should be interesting. (Sunday 10 October 2021; 16:48)

Re: Adele (98,718) (98,720) by Bobby A from United States Adele is going to own November 19. It is the Friday before Black Friday. I am thinking MC's announcement is going to be the week before Halloween. I suspect we have not received an announcement before now because she was waiting on Adele's announcement. (Sunday 10 October 2021; 11:59)

Nick a no no (98,719) by Nikki from usa You don't buy things for the kids behind the parent's back. That's not cool. Especially, since Nick only sees his kids 6 times a year. Nick didn't have 5 kids when Roc and Roe were 8. Nick seems to be confusing time frames. That seems like a more recent conversation. He's up to 7 now. All of that is neither here nor there because kids tend to spend too much time on their phones instead of interreacting with other humans. I can understand MC not wanting her kids dependent on electronics when they already have some. That can add another danger she may not be able to monitor. These are celebrity children. Mariah's the one caring for them most of the time. It also makes me wonder how hands on Nick is when he's with them or if he distracts them with gadgets, so they don't bother him. (Sunday 10 October 2021; 04:48)

Adele (98,718) by SM from Citizen of the World Well, Taylor Swift moved her album release to a week earlier because of Adele's new album which is rumored to come out on November 19. Not sure what surprises Mariah has planned, but hopefully they are on hold until a week or 2 before Christmas so the general public doesn't over look them. (Sunday 10 October 2021; 02:52)

Re: Mimi is also immature (98,711) (98,717) by RibbonB from USA So sorry for the typos, typing on tablet in bed. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 20:32)

Re: Marriage (98,714) (98,716) by RibbonB from USA Exactly, it's not the phone itself, that's inevitable in this age. Regular parents will have the talk with their kids about sex, race, etc. Mimi may not want to deal with the celebrity issue, but that is inevitable. Get ahead of it anyway, phone or no phone. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 20:31)

Re: Mimi is also immature (98,712) (98,715) by RibbonB from USA They've been on the web for years, have iPad's and Roc has even schooled fans in the past about their comments. The issue is parenting and having parameters on those devices. Kids even use tablets for school. After watching the segment, both she and Nick were probably joking. But the kids accessing the web is inevitable. What they discover about her is mostly up to her going forward. Her past is out of her control. Both parents seem to have established a foundation of love and trust with their parents. They will both have to give talks with them about celebrity culture, gossip, etc. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 20:28)

Re: Marriage (98,709) (98,714) by MusicfanJ from Germany I was 15 or 16 when I got my first cell phone. Back at the late 90ies. Lol that big, black Nokia one. And luckily there was no Google on it. I understand that Mariah doesn't want cell phones for her kids. But I think all the other kids will show them Google and so on. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 14:21)

Re: Tanaka and MC (98,708) (98,713) by Bobby A from United States Please elaborate about the filming of a Christmas special for this holiday season. I am just so excited about this news. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 13:46)

Re: Mimi is also immature (98,711) (98,712) by Bill from the UK How any parent would be happy having a 10 year old access the Internet and, especially, the toxic social media platforms is beyond me. Completely understand why Mariah is annoyed about this. They are far too young to be exposed to all that. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 13:06)

Mimi is also immature (98,711) by RibbonB from USA I refuse to read such a long post at the moment. By these are the parents they have. Mimi centers those kids around her needs and emotions. She also thought nothing of allowing Doc yo suck on a binky with a full mouth of teeth and him walking and talking. And she joked about Nick disapproving. They were even still married then, I believe. The phone thing isn't even about phoebes, it's about parenting your kids and how about living in the manner you want them to respect, not preventing "googlation". But have fun writing out your examples because he has a whole tv show to display his humor. Not bad from the shirt binge I was able to do online. I love the three kids singing on his show theme song. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 10:48)

Exhibit A: Nick is immature (98,710) by Geronimo from USA This Yahoo article shows the difference between a committed adult and someone who seems to over-identify with celebrity identity. I'm sure Nick is a super nice guy but he constantly makes comments in public that should almost certainly have remained at least semi-private. He often drags other people's private lives into an anonymous, public space where private matters do not belong. Even though I think children should only possess technology at the pleasure of their parents, 1) Nick should have let that remain a conversation between two parents, 2) he should not want to announce to the world that his children now have access to social media against their mother's wishes, and 3) if it is the case that Mariah Carey is the kind of parent whose children need to communicate with outsiders without their mothers knowledge and/or consent at the age of 10, then that is also a very delicate and unfortunate situation completely unsuitable for public entertainment. Maybe he actually does forget that no matter how seriously he takes himself, he is only in public for entertainment purposes. Mariah, on the other hand, has always gotten some flack because she (generally) sticks to her media persona and doesn't pretend the public should take her seriously on other subjects often. She's finally showing that she has a basic grasp on the complications of being an Afro-American woman who has a stake in what happens to other Afro-American men and women. She thinks poverty and hopelessness are bad things. She thinks everyone should be nice or leave. Mariah knows that it's best for her to focus primarily on being an entertainer as far as communicating with the public is concerned. For all kinds of reasons I can see why that makes sense for her to do. I think she and Nick are very similar in the sense that it would be best if they both did as Mariah typically does. (Saturday 9 October 2021; 04:36)

Marriage (98,709) by RibbonB from USA Ok, I will take bait and add this tidbit. I didn't watch Nick's new show, but read this story about him giving their kids phones. This story is hilarious to me, especially the part about Mimi worrying, jokingly or not, about the twins googling their parents. I mean, the stories and gossip they have to look forward to and that Mimi should be concerned about us vast. As far as any potential new marriages, she would be a fool dummy to do so just look at Kelly Clarkson and Mary J. Blige recent payouts. Hopefully Mimi has the dancer's employment papers airtight, or she will be in paying palimony territory when she is done with him. But back to the kids, is she sure they haven't googled them on their little iPad's already? I can't wait till they get to the Stellar stories. Skso, from the article, Mimi knows the babies are their brothers and new sister. They've already met Golden and Powerful based on pictures that have been posted. (Friday 8 October 2021; 18:35)

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