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Re: Endless Love (101,128) (101,153)
by Mutton Dressed as Lamb from UK
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Agent M, did you get lost on your mission saving operative Honey? How have you been? It seems a lifetime since our lunches at Donatello's. Get in touch.
(Wednesday 7 September 2022; 02:05)
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Re: Butterfly announcement? (101,137) (101,152)
by SM from Citizen of the World
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Why does she have to release anything on or around the weeks of Butterfly's original release date? A 25th anniversary album can come out anytime of the 25th year.
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 23:01)
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Re: Toni Braxton (101,149) (101,151)
by Jamie from UK
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I thought she had said we were getting a Butterfly remake?
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 14:21)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,147) (101,150)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes, what you say makes sense in some ways, but then are How Much and the remix of TGIFY a representation of the ballads from Rainbow? When you have CTTA, After Tonight, Petals etc. that better fit the definition. Petals would have been a great showcase as it's a different type of ballad to the overwrought Carey/Afanasieff collabs from everything before.
What I'm trying to say is that I get there are the traditional ballads and the mid-tempo ballads and the different types of ballads. But is How Much a ballad?
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 13:55)
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Re: Toni Braxton (101,146) (101,149)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I also love Toni Braxton. She's one of the artists that made me a soul/RnB fan. "You're making me high" were my song back then. "Unbreak my heart" was a big hit in Germany, it was played everyday with the video. The same with "Spanish Guitar". How I miss real music like that.
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 12:29)
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Re: Toni Braxton (101,146) (101,148)
by Bobby A from United States
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Toni's last two album releases, Spell My Name and Sex and Cigarettes, are great albums as well. I have a rare vinyl copy of Spell My Name. I am really sad too about no Butterfly 25th anniversary album.
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 12:17)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,130) (101,147)
by Terna from Nigeria
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It's all a marketing strategy. These type of collections are not really for fans, but mainly as an introduction of the artist to non fans who are casual listeners. Through these compilations a "glimpse" of who she is as an artist and hints at her body of work is made available, without having to go through the whole discography. People gravitate towards certain types of music and genres more than others (Ballads, Mid-tempos, Up-tempos etc.). So for a casual non listening fan, there are always gonna be a variety of songs showcased. And for a genre crossing artist such as herself, she would want to be represented a certain kind of way with an equal balance of her Pop catalogue as well as the R&B and the Hip-hop all of which she has been very successful at - thus the weird tracklistings all the time, it's all marketing, because at the end of the day it's about selling records and making money.
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 12:05)
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Re: Toni Braxton (101,144) (101,146)
by Randy from USA
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I love some of Toni's album cuts. On The Heat there's a song called Fairy Tales and on Libra there's a song called Shadowless. Both of those get me emotional every time I hear them. Cue the "real fans" asking why are we talking about another artist on a MC board. I am sad we are not getting a Butterfly anniversary something.
(Tuesday 6 September 2022; 09:57)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,143) (101,145)
by Anonymous from United States
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Seal's first two records are two of my absolute favorites. I love the first album because it combines so many different styles of music - electronic, alternative, blues. There's a live version of "Whirlpool" on the Killer EP from 1991 that is absolutely brilliant. And as much as I hate Mariah's being snubbed at the 1996 Grammys, I think the Grammys were justified in giving Record of the Year to Seal over Mariah/Boyz II Men. I've seen him twice in concert, and both times he was absolutely fantastic.
(Monday 5 September 2022; 21:45)
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Re: Toni Braxton (101,143) (101,144)
by Edward from USA
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"Let It Flow" is my jam. I love the way she sings it. Toni has a very unique voice, you can't mistake her for anybody else. Her first album, you can listen to from start to finish without skipping a track, but my favorite "Secrets" has the jams I love more from her. "You're Making Me High", "Let It Flow", "How Could an Angel Break My Heart", love them all. Sadly her light kind of faded quickly after "Secrets".
(Monday 5 September 2022; 16:20)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,142) (101,143)
by Bill from the UK
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Seal's first two albums were brilliant, I still play them today. As for Toni, I'm a big fan as well. Her voice is spectacular, and her debut album and Secrets I still play quite often. I love "Let It Flow" from Secrets, and "Breathe Again" from the debut.
(Monday 5 September 2022; 15:30)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,136) (101,142)
by Anonymous from United States
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Toni's house remixes with David Morales and Frankie Knuckles are definitely worth a listen. The remixes of "Unbreak My Heart", "Spanish Guitar", "I Don't Want to", and "You're Makin' Me High" are fantastic.
I'm also a big fan of Seal generally and many of the remixes of his 90s and early 00s stuff.
(Monday 5 September 2022; 13:53)
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Re: Butterfly announcement? (101,138) (101,141)
by Bobby A from United States
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It's probably for the best right now until she can come up with a new sound by experimenting with some new young producers. I really can't think of any one producer that has really dominated the pop and R&B charts this year. Most songs this year have all sounded the same. Radio has been quite boring this year. Let's see if Taylor Swift changes my mind with Midnights on October 21. She has really been on a creative journey during the past 3 years. I would like MC to create a new album that takes her back to her beginnings focusing on her songwriting skills.
(Monday 5 September 2022; 13:00)
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Re: If saying... (101,134) (101,140)
by RibbonB from USA
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Listen.
(Monday 5 September 2022; 10:59)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,130) (101,139)
by T from USA
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I always thought it was just a cash in album from Sony. Totally unnecessary because there was already a greatest hits. Unless it was going to go back and look completely at her more obscure ballads to shine light on her songwriting. Personally I'd rather a covers album at the time:
1. I'll Be There 2. Endless Love 3. Without You 4. Open Arms 5. Beautiful Ones 6. I Still Believe 7. Do You Know Where You're Going 8. Against All Odds 9. Didn't Mean To Turn You On 10. Bringing On The Heartbreak 11. I Want To Know What Love Is (new)
(Sunday 4 September 2022; 14:23)
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Re: Butterfly announcement? (101,137) (101,138)
by T from USA
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Nothing is happening in 2022. And honestly she deserves a break after a long pandemic. We are lucky she hoped on the BE Remix and that she did a little performance at the BET awards. Let's look forward to 2023 and hope there is new original music in the cards.
(Sunday 4 September 2022; 14:12)
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Butterfly announcement? (101,137)
by Bobby A from United States
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Fall is the time artists and record labels release new albums, complications, Christmas albums, and boxsets. I find it very odd that MC has not made an announcement about Butterfly's 25th anniversary release. September 16th is next week. Something must be happening with her label. Do we even know what label she is on anyway? Epic? RCA? Maybe she is dealing with a lot like Nick's baby announcements, backlash from her Queen of Christmas trademark application, and her Atlanta [home] being burglarized. I think that a new original pop ballad or remake released and hitting #1 on the Hot 100 would put a smile on her face. If only MC listened to me. Lol.
(Sunday 4 September 2022; 11:49)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,132) (101,136)
by Stacey from USA
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I'm not a huge Toni Braxton fan but I will give her props for Just Another Sad Love Song and How Could An Angel Break My Heart. How Could An Angel has one of the best emotionally driven bridges ever, and with Kenny G on the sax? Beautiful.
(Sunday 4 September 2022; 05:20)
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The Remixes (101,135)
by Stacey from USA
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The Remixes was a missed opportunity. With any remixed song, there was almost always a radio edit included. Those radio edits should have been included on the album so more songs could be included. The second CD should have been filled with her slower, R&B remixes and include lesser known ones like UTS (Drifting Remix). Lazy tracklisting indeed.
(Sunday 4 September 2022; 05:18)
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Re: If saying... (101,129) (101,134)
by Mutton Dressed as Lamb from UK
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Lunch? Donatello's? It's been a minute.
(Sunday 4 September 2022; 02:29)
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RRe: The Ballads compilation (101,131) (101,133)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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It's the only album from MC which I don't have in my collection. Maybe I should change that. I love all her ballads, but the tracklist was a bit disappointing for a fan. For non-fans or casual Mariah listeners it's a good compilation.
(Saturday 3 September 2022; 15:27)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,131) (101,132)
by Anonymous from United States
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Oh yes. The Remixes could have been so much better. Disc 2 in particular really messed up by including "Sweetheart", "Crybaby", "Breakdown", and "Loverboy (remix)". None of those tracks are remixes, including "Loverboy" which was just extra rappers inserted into the original version. Also a complete mystery why that version was the first track on the "Glitter" album.
And I would have loved to see more deep cuts on "The Ballads". All of the songs you mentioned would have been great. I think my ideal track listing (if they were sticking with singles releases) would have been:
1. Vision of Love 2. Love Takes Time 3. Can't Let Go 4. I'll Be There 5. Hero 6. Without You 7. Anytime You Need A Friend 8. Never Forget You 9. Endless Love (with Luther Vandross) 10. One Sweet Day (with Boyz II Men) 11. Forever 12. Butterfly 13. My All 14. I Still Believe 15. Whenever You Call (with Brian McKnight) 16. When You Believe (with Whitney Houston) 17. Can't Take That Away 18. Thank God I Found You (original) 19. Never Too Far
I think Toni Braxton should have also released a compilation like this. I could listen to her ballads all day. Probably my second favorite "diva" after MC.
(Saturday 3 September 2022; 14:21)
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Re: The Ballads compilation (101,130) (101,131)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes I agree. Much like The Remixes before it, The Ballads was a missed opportunity in a lot of ways. Of all the markets it was released in, Japan had the best tracklisting:
1. Hero 2. One sweet day 3. Endless love 4. Can't take that away 5. Open arms 6. Reflections 7. Butterfly 8. Love takes time 9. My all 10. Without you 11. Always be my baby 12. Vision of love 13. Can't let go 14. Anytime you need a friend 15. Thank God I found you (Make it last) 16. I'll be there 17. I still believe 18. Never too far 19. All I want for Christmas is you
So it had a number of the tracks you listed and removed some of the less ballad-y type songs. I get it probably had to have a certain hit-to-album track ratio, but I can't believe deep cuts like Vanishing, Till the End of Time, All I've Ever Wanted, Outside, Whenever You Call etc. didn't get a look in.
To the same degree The Remixes second disc annoys me, especially when towards the end it seems they gave up and just put on album tracks like Sweetheart and Crybaby rather than including something really rare like the Drifting Remix of Underneath the Stars or the club mixes for DYKWYGT etc. (This was before the EPs of course and would have been a good incentive to pick up the compilation.)
But we love everyone.
(Saturday 3 September 2022; 12:39)
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The Ballads compilation (101,130)
by Anonymous from United States
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I always enjoy listening to this compilation but think the track listing could have been improved a bit. I would have loved to see "Never Forget You", "Forever", "Butterfly", "Whenever You Call (with Brian McKnight)","Can't Take that Away", "Thank God I Found You (original)" and "Never Too Far" included. Some of the songs included didn't really fit the theme IMO. "The Roof", "Dreamlover", "Always Be My Baby", and "TGIFY (Remix)" are all great but aren't really "ballads". And I have no idea why "How Much" and "Reflections" were on there instead of better songs from their respective albums.
(Saturday 3 September 2022; 05:00)
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Re: If saying... (101,084) (101,129)
by RibbonB from USA
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So you're saying she looks like a heavily pregnant 52 year old? Lol, what's the difference? Saying, or thinking, someone is pregnant when they are clearly not is equally as bad.
(Saturday 3 September 2022; 02:54)
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