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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,440) (97,456) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
It's m'lady to you, Australia. I accept your reasoning for not liking Music Box if it is a deeply held conviction. However, I sometimes get the feelings that lambs online spurt forth anything they think Mariah will agree with or which makes them look like a better lamb than others. As an example: Purposefully saying they don't like Music Box because it is the most commercially successful and/or because Mariah doesn't praise it or talk about it all that much. I am forced to agree with Jamie that Music Box is a fantastic album and am humoured to a smirk if not a grin when I remind myself that "cohesive body of work" is a favourite fan trope that could and would easily be applied to Music Box - but isn't, probably because it's just not cool to do so and/or Music Box needs no defending as it is one of the most successful albums of all time.

This general argument could be flipped on its head and equally apply to Caution. It is nowhere near as good as the rest of her records vocally or sonically but it slightly fares better in critical reception and is cited as such by Mariah. Thus, if someone, say... the webmaster... were to comment about how people who practically masturbated over the album upon its release weren't out supporting it, said people might start frantically posting lists with Caution either at the top or very near it. I can't help but think there is a lot of invading cynicism.

Music Box is undeniably brilliant. It is Mariah's most accessible album having mass appeal and songs of a sound that have stood the test of time. With the exception of GTFO and With You I don't think anyone will be talking about Caution in a few years. It's all rather a dull affair.

I think Mariah needs to move once again to a more accessible sound with a more crafted and simpler production. I feel like Mariah has spent the best part of two decades trying to prove how clever she is as a composer, with sample + cut and paste vocals + complicated vocal layers in the background + different melody for second verse + witty kitchen sink lyrics + octave jump screech at the end. She has proved that she can do that but I think she should do something else now.

I've been listening to Madonna's 80s and 90's ballads this week as I caught Live To Tell on the radio and also some of Madonna's newer stuff like Girl Gone Wild. I think one of the reasons that Madonna is successful is the simplicity of a lot of her songs. Even Ray of Light isn't that overly complicated.

I think Mariah is too stuck in her ways trying to win the respect of her peers to change but I am certain not many people want to buy what she is selling, anymore. But there are certainly a few enablers who will say it's the best thing ever for as long as Mariah does.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 09:50)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,441) (97,455) by Shezz from Pk
As with everyone, this could change tomorrow. Just what I'm feeling these days based on what I've heard in the last few months:

1.Butterfly
2.Daydream
3.E=mc2
4.TEOM
5.Emotions
6.Musicbox
7.Caution
8.Glitter
9.MC
10.Rainbow
11.MIMATEC
12.Memoirs
13.Charmbracelet (I do love this album very much. Ugh this is tough.)
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 07:58)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,454) by Lainsky from Philippines
I tried and I failed lol! I could not resist sharing my own list as if anyone cares. Like Bill, I love rankings that's why I was obsessed with Billboard Charts, radio countdowns, and Mariah's single. Well, let me be happy just seeing it here. As mentioned in my previous post, Butterfly will always be on top. Hey! It's her magnum opus and kind of like her signature/identity album.
1. Butterfly
2. Daydream
3. Music Box
4. The Emancipation of Mimi
5. Glitter
6. Mariah Carey
7. Caution
8. E=MC2
9. Rainbow
10. Emotions
11. Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel
12. Charmbracelet
13. Me I Am Mariah The Elusive Chanteuse
Similar to others, I am leaving out the two holiday collections and the compilation albums. A lot of lambs like MIAMTEC, especially the younger and later fans of her. As a 90's baby, I honestly cannot relate much to this album. It's the reason why it is at bottom. Caution and MOAIA are her most cohesive works. The former suffer from her fading popularity and the latter suffer from wrong singles released like E=MC2.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 04:06)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,433) (97,453) by Stacey from USA
Close but no cigar, lol.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 03:14)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,450) (97,452) by Justin from United States
1. Butterfly
2. The Emancipation of Mimi
3. Daydream
4. Caution
5. E=MC2
6. MIAM
7. Mariah Carey
8. Glitter
9. Emotions
10. Rainbow
11. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
12. Music Box
13. Charmbracelet

Butterfly will always be my number one - if nothing else, for the songwriting and narration alone. Mariah really developed her craft here. Daydream follows for vocals and as a subtle lead into a more urban, adult sound.

I love Caution era. A total mood album. Thematically, so cohesive. Give me The Distance, and you can keep all of Memoirs.

And I love the E era party vibes. Love upbeat Mariah. I prefer her having fun versus waning over a lover on top of a slow arrangement.

Rainbow would be higher if asked years ago, but in my opinion, songs like X Girlfriend and How Much really haven't aged well. Also feels choppy. She clearly recorded it quickly and wanted out from the label.

Never really liked Charmbracelet - sorry. Love performances of Through the Rain but her diction is poor on the album and I feel like she kept reaching but never achieved a smash hook.

Now just realizing I'm partial to the newer part of her catalogue, though Music Box was one of my first cassettes ever.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 01:20)
Languishing Interlude (97,451) by Joe from United Kingdom
This is one of my faves on MOAIA and I have always wondered who MC is singing it to. Obviously it's one of those personal songs she does hat that we all love. I'm thinking maybe it's Tommy?
(Monday 22 February 2021; 22:44)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,450) by Jamie from UK
1. Music Box
2. Emotions
3. Mariah Carey
4. Butterfly
5. Daydream
6. E=MC2
7. The Emancipation of Mimi
8. Caution
9. Rainbow
10. Me. I am Mariah
11. Memoirs of an imperfect angel
12. Charmbracelet
13. Glitter

Music Box will always be my number one. I love the ballads and the adult contemporary style of the album. Emotions I love the soulful ness of that album.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 22:10)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,449) by Tijl from Belgium
1. Butterfly
2. Emancipation
3. Memoirs
4. Caution
5. Miamtec
6. E=MC2
7. Glitter
8. Rainbow
9. Daydream
10. Merry Christmas
11. Emotions
12. Music Box
13. Mariah Carey
14. Rarities
15. Merry Christmas II You
16. Charmbracelet
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:59)
Re: Mariah: The Diva, The Drama (97,435) (97,448) by Tijl from Belgium
It was available on YouTube for a short while. It holds many inaccuracies and it is highly dramatised. That famous impersonator, Jessica something, plays MC. She does resemble Mariah, especially from certain angles but all in all it is a silly piece of tabloid journalism.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:52)
My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,445) (97,447) by John from USA
1. Daydream
2. Butterfly
3. TEOM
4. Mariah Carey
5. Caution
6. Music Box
7. The Rarities
8. E=MC2
9. MOAIA
10. Emotions
11. Charmbracelet
12. Glitter
13. MIAMTEC
14. Rainbow
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:47)
My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,446) by Will from England
1. Caution
2. Memoirs
3. Butterfly
4. Charmbracelet
5. TEOM
6. Elusive
7. Daydream
8. Rainbow
9. Music Box
10. Mariah Carey
11. Emotions
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:43)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,429) (97,445) by IheartMC from USA
This was surely a hard list but here is my list and it changes with moods and times. Some albums such as Charmie has aged wonderfully.

1. Daydream
2. Butterfly
3. Emotions
4. TEOM
5. Music Box
6. Rarities
7. Charmbracelet
8. EMC2
9. Rainbow
10. Caution
11. Me I am Mariah
12. Glitter
(Monday 22 February 2021; 19:37)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,434) (97,444) by MusicfanJ from Germany
01. Daydream
02. Butterfly
03. Emotions
04. Music Box
05. Mariah Carey
06. Merry Chistmas
07. Glitter
08. E=MC2
09. The Rarities
10. The Emancipation of Mimi
11. Charmbracelet
12. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
13. Rainbow
14. MIAMTEC
15. Merry Christmas II You
16. Caution
(Monday 22 February 2021; 19:22)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,442) (97,443) by Tyler from United States
Don't be too surprised. Not everyone who visits this board has had the chance to participate and not everyone will.

01. Butterfly
02. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
03. Daydream
04. Caution
05. E=MC2
06. Mariah Carey
07. The Emancipation of Mimi
08. The Rarities
09. Glitter
10. Music Box
11. Rainbow
12. Merry Christmas
13. Merry Christmas II You
14. Emotions
15. MIAMTEC
16. Charmbracelet
(Monday 22 February 2021; 19:00)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,441) (97,442) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
It surprises me that only one person listed Caution in their top 10 (at number 9), while everyone was lyrical when the album was released.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 15:18)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,434) (97,441) by The Real Deal from USA
1. Emotions
2. Mariah Carey
3. Me. I Am Mariah. The Elusive Chanteuse
4. Butterfly
5. Charmbracelet
6. Music Box
7. E=MC2
8. The Emancipation Of Mimi
9. Daydream
10. Glitter
11. Caution
12. Rainbow
13. Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel
(Monday 22 February 2021; 14:51)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,429) (97,440) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
Alright lady, that'll do. Music Box and Daydream have always been a bit "meh" for me. On Music Box I like AYNAF, Dreamlover and Without You, and obviously our favourite Everything Fades Away. But the rest of the album all blends into one for me. Same with Daydream. Fantasy and Looking In are the only songs I'm crazy about. The "Open Arms / When I Saw You / I Am Free / Forever" ballad train all sounds the same. I say this like I dislike them, I don't. Even the MC songs that I don't love, I'm still very fond of. Except "I Don't". James Packer and Almira Gulch can keep that one. Now, are we cool?
(Monday 22 February 2021; 12:31)
Re: Get a grip (97,436) (97,439) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Lol it's a piece of "rip-off". That prize for a book is hilarious. But yes, of course it's "art". Rihanna could spend the the earning for a a social thing. That would make sense.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 11:47)
Honey live at Top of The Pops 1997 (97,438) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
I wonder why until now Mariah's team has not uploaded the official live performance of Honey at the Top Of The Pops in 1997. Almost all of Mariah's performances at that show in the 90's have been uploaded at Mariah's YouTube channel. To me, it was such a great performance and the only performance where Mase made an appearance. Mariah's voice and tone was almost identical to the album version.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 10:26)
Re: WBT Valentine's mix (97,430) (97,437) by HoneyLamb from Germany
What bothers me most: it's not rocket science to soften the transitions between the different parts. Yes, I am not Mariah the elusive chanteuse, but even I was able to soften most of these "bumps" just by using the stems from the internet and Audacity. So I would expect a studio perfectionist like Mimi (or her team) to do better and not have it sound that obvious.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 07:36)
Get a grip (97,436) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"The Rihanna Book: Queen Size is limited to only 500 copies and retails for $1,495. 'It's a piece of art that I am really proud of,' RiRi said."

Squeeze me? Baking power? 1.5k for a photo book. Are you kidding? It's like US$500 for a brief-no-redo photograph with the artist.

How much money do they need? This is incredibly selfish. It goes to show what I have said all along. The Mariah's and the Rihanna's of the world do not care about you and though you may have spent a thousand hours in your room dreaming of the day, to them you are a dollar sign.

$750,000 for crappy bound photos? Oh, tweet her and tell her to foxtrot oscar. The cheek of it. Save your money.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 02:45)
Mariah: The Diva, The Drama (97,435) by Korey2 from United Stated
Did anybody see this on Reelz? I missed the very first bit, watching some now.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 01:30)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,434) by Edward from USA
Re: My ranking:

01. Butterfly
02. Daydream
03. Mariah Carey
04. Music Box
05. Emotions
06. Merry Chistmas
07. The Rarities
08. The Emancipation of Mimi
09. Charmbracelet
10. E=MC2
11. Glitter
12. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
13. Rainbow
14. MIAMTEC
15. Merry Christmas II You
16. Caution
(Sunday 21 February 2021; 21:50)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,432) (97,433) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
"I wonder what my #1 will be."

Rainbow?
(Sunday 21 February 2021; 21:00)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,432) by Stacey from USA
I wonder what my #1 will be.
(Sunday 21 February 2021; 19:46)

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