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The 5 chosen Tommy producers (110,865) by Bobby A from United States I just found a Barry Mann Brown Eyed Woman 45 record today. The song is very souful like Can You Hear Me? Finding his record made me think about the five chosen producers for MC's first two albums. Tommy chose Rhett Lawrence, Narada Michael Walden, Ric Wake, Barry Mann, and Carole King. Why didn't he choose David Foster to collaborate with MC? I wonder what a Mariah Carey and David Foster collaboration would have sounded like in 1990-1992. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 20:20)

Year end record? (110,864) by Bobby A from United States Jamie has great insight about MC's career. Jamie, blame it on my old mind and not my heart. I meant to include you in my first post. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 19:33) this is a reply to message 110,856

Year end record? (110,856) by TJ from Norway Is it just me, or do people write more messages here in 2025, than the years before? It's sometimes difficult to follow the treads of options. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:45)

Year end record? (110,863) by Bobby A from United States I have noticed that too. It's like we all knew 2025 would be the start of a new era. Bill, Dove, Lighty from China and Libra Lamb are back. We welcomed this year Giovanni, Lambi, and Baby from Dreamville. T is posting more this year. Randy came out of hibernation. Stacey makes me laugh. Terna and Shezz are great analysts. Mimi is our Tamron Hall with her great insight and commentary. Zachariah is my best friend now. Edward looks for my Saturday post to refute my claims. Lol. I don't want the number #1 slot at the end of the year. I want another board member to be #1. We are all family in the land of Mariah Carey. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 19:13) this is a reply to message 110,856

Year end record? (110,856) by TJ from Norway Is it just me, or do people write more messages here in 2025, than the years before? It's sometimes difficult to follow the treads of options. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:45)

Year end record? (110,862) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think conversations usually intensifies around the time when Mariah has something new coming up. Which is understandable. The past few years have been a drought in Mariah land. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 18:21) this is a reply to message 110,856

Year end record? (110,856) by TJ from Norway Is it just me, or do people write more messages here in 2025, than the years before? It's sometimes difficult to follow the treads of options. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:45)

Year end record? (110,861) by Edward from USA TJ, darling, that's not more messages, it's just your cataracts giving you the deluxe edition. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 18:03) this is a reply to message 110,856

Year end record? (110,856) by TJ from Norway Is it just me, or do people write more messages here in 2025, than the years before? It's sometimes difficult to follow the treads of options. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:45)

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,860) by Bobby A from United States MC has such a massive catalogue of ballads. I hope we get another compilation of a ballads album soon with her Def Jam and Gamma ballads. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 17:52) this is a reply to message 110,851

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,851) by Bill from the UK I'll limit this to two per album: Vision of Love Vanishing And You Don't Remember Till the End of Time Anytime You Need a Friend Everything Fades Away O Holy Night Miss You Most (at Christmas Time) Open Arms Looking In My All Whenever You Call After Tonight Petals That'll do for now. Keeping it to the OG Sony run. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:58)

Super Bowl (110,859) by Bobby A from United States I believe MC could do it with Debbie Allen (choreography), L.A.Reid (setlist), JD (guest list), DJ Mustard (remixes and samples), Daniel Moore (musical direction), and Brett Ratner (director) partnering with MC to deliver a spectacular half-time show. I guess we will know on a smaller scale at the MTV Video Awards what MC can do vocally and performance wise. The world will be watching and on social media during and after her performance. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 17:48) this is a reply to message 110,855

Super Bowl (110,855) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ya no Superbowl for Mariah. Her perfect opportunity would have been during TEOM era when she was feeling herself and on fire. But now she wouldn't have the stage presence to command such a huge stage. She definitely has the set list to perform but I don't think it's a pressure she wants or needs right now. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:43)

Super Bowl (110,858) by Bill from the UK Top of the Pops had a long period where artists lip synced purely I believe for technical reasons. There was then a period when TOTP insisted everybody perform live. I assume the studio was moved to one that could better accommodate that. It was during the peak of Euro Pop so it was hilarious seeing the club singers trying to recreate their songs live, some I remember being terrible. And then it was an "either or" situation, throughout the late 90s, then almost everyone lipped after that point. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 16:33) this is a reply to message 110,853

Super Bowl (110,853) by Lambi from USA I was wondering about that, why basically everyone lip-synced on TOTP. Was it a prerequisite or something? Apparently, when the show started in 1964, the British Musicians' Union had strict rules about live performances on television. To avoid conflicts over performance rights and royalties, the show used pre-recorded backing tracks, and artists mimed along. But yeah, Mariah did lip-sync during her "prime" years. I remember one of the Open Arms performances was mimed in Europe, probably because of jet lag. That would've been an exception though, not the rule. She worked hard on her voice and took pride in singing concerts fully live until '96, which is why she was so offended when Howard Stern accused her of lip-syncing. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:32)

Year end record? (110,857) by Dove from United States I'm excited because we're getting a new album. Yay. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 16:12) this is a reply to message 110,856

Year end record? (110,856) by TJ from Norway Is it just me, or do people write more messages here in 2025, than the years before? It's sometimes difficult to follow the treads of options. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:45)

Year end record? (110,856) by TJ from Norway Is it just me, or do people write more messages here in 2025, than the years before? It's sometimes difficult to follow the treads of options. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:45)

Super Bowl (110,855) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ya no Superbowl for Mariah. Her perfect opportunity would have been during TEOM era when she was feeling herself and on fire. But now she wouldn't have the stage presence to command such a huge stage. She definitely has the set list to perform but I don't think it's a pressure she wants or needs right now. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:43) this is a reply to message 110,829

Super Bowl (110,829) by Giovanni from USA I'm a no on Mariah doing a Super Bowl performance. I just think she's past her prime and I don't know if she could deliver vocally. I think it would be a risk and any mess up would just be more ammo for haters. We're still recovering from that disastrous New Year's Eve performance so the last thing Mariah needs is negative coverage of a bad performance. Let Taylor Swift do it. (Saturday 30 August 2025; 19:55)

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,854) by TJ from Norway O Holy Night? Maybe the Celine version, but Mariah's? I would never put that one in the box of ballads. Except that the list is OG approved. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:43) this is a reply to message 110,851

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,851) by Bill from the UK I'll limit this to two per album: Vision of Love Vanishing And You Don't Remember Till the End of Time Anytime You Need a Friend Everything Fades Away O Holy Night Miss You Most (at Christmas Time) Open Arms Looking In My All Whenever You Call After Tonight Petals That'll do for now. Keeping it to the OG Sony run. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:58)

Super Bowl (110,853) by Lambi from USA I was wondering about that, why basically everyone lip-synced on TOTP. Was it a prerequisite or something? Apparently, when the show started in 1964, the British Musicians' Union had strict rules about live performances on television. To avoid conflicts over performance rights and royalties, the show used pre-recorded backing tracks, and artists mimed along. But yeah, Mariah did lip-sync during her "prime" years. I remember one of the Open Arms performances was mimed in Europe, probably because of jet lag. That would've been an exception though, not the rule. She worked hard on her voice and took pride in singing concerts fully live until '96, which is why she was so offended when Howard Stern accused her of lip-syncing. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:32) this is a reply to message 110,849

Super Bowl (110,849) by Bill from the UK Mariah started lip syncing in 1994, towards the end of the year. The first I can remember is Without You at a Christmas special of Top of the Pops, then it was just downhill from that point on. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:53)

Super Bowl (110,852) by Bill from the UK Oh. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 15:13) this is a reply to message 110,848

Super Bowl (110,848) by Bill from the UK ODB passed away in 2004 sweetheart. [Webmaster: They were fantasizing about Mariah performing at the SuperBowl in 1996. ODB was still alive.] (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:50)

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,851) by Bill from the UK I'll limit this to two per album: Vision of Love Vanishing And You Don't Remember Till the End of Time Anytime You Need a Friend Everything Fades Away O Holy Night Miss You Most (at Christmas Time) Open Arms Looking In My All Whenever You Call After Tonight Petals That'll do for now. Keeping it to the OG Sony run. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:58) this is a reply to message 110,834

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,834) by Bobby A from United States I have 15 ballads on a SD card that I will listen to every day until Here For It All is released. Here is my list is: 1. I Don't Wanna Cry 2. Can't Let Go 3. Never Forget You 4. When I Saw 5. My All 6. Against All Odds 7. Never Too Far 8. Through The Rain 9. We Belong Together 10. Love Story 11. Inseparable 12. Camouflage 13. Portrait 14. There Goes My Heart Again 15. I Wish You Well (Sunday 31 August 2025; 02:04)

One week left for voting Mariah's Type Dangerous for VMA (110,850) by T from USA It''s down to one week guys. Can she top Sza and the Weeknd and win her first Moon Man of her career? Keep voting daily, and remember at 1pm (USA EST time) you get double the votes. Let's bring it home for the Era of Mi. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:54)

Super Bowl (110,849) by Bill from the UK Mariah started lip syncing in 1994, towards the end of the year. The first I can remember is Without You at a Christmas special of Top of the Pops, then it was just downhill from that point on. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:53) this is a reply to message 110,840

Super Bowl (110,840) by Lambi from USA Wait, imagine Mariah actually booked Super Bowl in '96 when she still refused to lip sync. My goodness, she would've slept for 72 hours and completely crush it. Imagine the vocal prowess? This is hypothetical by the way, it wouldn't be realistic since she was still way too new to get this gig, but just for fun. With the hits she had at the time. What should be on her Super Bowl set list? (Sunday 31 August 2025; 09:14)

Super Bowl (110,848) by Bill from the UK ODB passed away in 2004 sweetheart. [Webmaster: They were fantasizing about Mariah performing at the SuperBowl in 1996. ODB was still alive.] (Sunday 31 August 2025; 14:50) this is a reply to message 110,846

Super Bowl (110,846) by Lambi from USA I love it. We should bring Brandy, ODB and TLC as starring guests. Full on 90's galore. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 13:20)

Super Bowl (110,846) by Lambi from USA I love it. We should bring Brandy, ODB and TLC as starring guests. Full on 90's galore. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 13:20) this is a reply to message 110,841

Super Bowl (110,841) by Bobby A from United States 1996 Superbowl setlist 1. Fantasy intro/Fantasy ODB remix 2. Dreamlover - Theo's Joint Club Mix 3. Always Be My Baby 4. Emotions/Make It Happen C&C Club mash-up 5. There's Got To Be Way - 12 inch remix/Anytime You Need A Friend - Ministry of Sound Mix mash-up 6. Someday - New 12" Jack Swing/I Want Her - Keith Sweat sample - new lyrics and adlibs over the sample A Superbowl set is normally 13-14 minutes, but Tommy and Columbia Records pay the NFL for an additional 15 minutes. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 12:02)

MC the GOAT (110,845) by Lambi from USA Daydream is like that hopeless romantic Christian girl who's all about crushes, horses, going to the river, bon fires, game nights and reading her Bible. She's bubbly, adventurous, pure and plays it safe. Butterfly is that same girl, but it's Friday night and she just turned 21 so she wants to go to the club. She still believes, still prays, but she's letting loose a little. She's trying to have some edge. However though, it's ultimately the same girl, just a different vibe. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 13:05) this is a reply to message 110,809

MC the GOAT (110,809) by jaker20 from US They are different. Butterfly is more artistic, and Daydream is very commercial and in the moment. Art and commerce don't have the same criteria in comparison. They're just different. Personally I listen to them depending on my mood. If I'm home and contemplating, I listen to Butterfly. If I'm in the park or doing my groceries, I listen to Daydream. (Friday 29 August 2025; 19:47)

MC the GOAT (110,844) by Lambi from USA Did you know that Hero wasn't even submitted until '95? That's crazy to me. I think after the savage '96 snub, she really stopped putting any faith in the Grammys. And I agree, Always Be My Baby brought something new to the table and definitely deserved recognition. It's also wild to me that Mariah didn't submit Music Box for AOTY in '94, especially since it was her best-selling album at the time. But maybe it was because she kept losing in '92 and '93. I still can't fathom how Emotions lost Best Pop Vocal Performance. It's literally the hardest song to sing in history. She already knew the Grammys lacked integrity pretty early on. And she was younger, so she was probably more sensitive to it. The board seems like they resent commercial success, which is probably why Mariah didn't bother submitting some of her best work. "You keep your awards, I'll keep my millions." (Sunday 31 August 2025; 12:41) this is a reply to message 110,803

MC the GOAT (110,803) by BFF from United States I honestly think that "Butterfly" is superior to "Daydream" as an artistic effort. I wish "Butterfly" had been recognized at the 1998 Grammys in the categories where she was nominated. The songwriting and production are just better than on "Daydream" and she approached the vocals with more restraint. Rich Juzwiak's review of the album for Slant Magazine really encapsulates why "Butterfly" is her best album. The hip-hop elements were incorporated in a very classy manner and were not overdone like they were for some songs on "Rainbow" and "Glitter." I think "One Sweet Day" deserved to win something, but Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" was also a really great song from that year. It was a little strange to award Best Pop Album to "Turbulent Indigo" by Joni Mitchell - I have that album and it is not one of Joni Mitchell's best. She lost best female pop vocal performance to Annie Lennox's "No More I Love You's", which is kind of silly too. "Fantasy" is definitely a better record than that one. She lost best female R&B vocal performance to Anita Baker and Album of the Year to Alanis Morissette. There was a lot of competition for Mariah from all directions, but I do agree she should have won something considering she was nominated for so many and considering how successful the album was. Maybe she would have won some awards at the 1996 Grammys if "Daydream" had been released a little earlier in 1995? "One Sweet Day" and "Always Be My Baby" did not really catch on as hits until 1996, so they may not have had enough exposure by the time of the award ceremony. (Friday 29 August 2025; 15:44)

Super Bowl (110,843) by MusicfanJ from Germany Absolutely. Please no Superbowl gig. There are many other possible gigs out there that would be less stressful. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 12:15) this is a reply to message 110,831

Super Bowl (110,831) by Lambi from USA Agree. Had this been '96 Tokyo Dome Emotions Mariah, it would've been perfect. She could be a guest star though, like that short number moment with Latto in BET. But Mariah being lazy for a 15 minute set, in front of all of America, on the most watched live TV event, on the biggest gig a star could possibly get, is a no no. However, I don't think there's any leg to this. Even Mariah said herself, "I don't want a stressful moment." (Sunday 31 August 2025; 01:20)

MC back in the studio (110,842) by Bobby A from United States Lol. Also, JD might have been blowing up her phone and said to Mariah something like this. Can Cox and I get a joint or two on the deluxe? (Sunday 31 August 2025; 12:08) this is a reply to message 110,837

MC back in the studio (110,837) by Edward from USA I think it just dawned on her that an 11-track album after 7 years won't cut it. It's been too long, 14 tracks would be fine. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 03:37)

Super Bowl (110,841) by Bobby A from United States 1996 Superbowl setlist 1. Fantasy intro/Fantasy ODB remix 2. Dreamlover - Theo's Joint Club Mix 3. Always Be My Baby 4. Emotions/Make It Happen C&C Club mash-up 5. There's Got To Be Way - 12 inch remix/Anytime You Need A Friend - Ministry of Sound Mix mash-up 6. Someday - New 12" Jack Swing/I Want Her - Keith Sweat sample - new lyrics and adlibs over the sample A Superbowl set is normally 13-14 minutes, but Tommy and Columbia Records pay the NFL for an additional 15 minutes. (Sunday 31 August 2025; 12:02) this is a reply to message 110,840

Super Bowl (110,840) by Lambi from USA Wait, imagine Mariah actually booked Super Bowl in '96 when she still refused to lip sync. My goodness, she would've slept for 72 hours and completely crush it. Imagine the vocal prowess? This is hypothetical by the way, it wouldn't be realistic since she was still way too new to get this gig, but just for fun. With the hits she had at the time. What should be on her Super Bowl set list? (Sunday 31 August 2025; 09:14)

Super Bowl (110,840) by Lambi from USA Wait, imagine Mariah actually booked Super Bowl in '96 when she still refused to lip sync. My goodness, she would've slept for 72 hours and completely crush it. Imagine the vocal prowess? This is hypothetical by the way, it wouldn't be realistic since she was still way too new to get this gig, but just for fun. With the hits she had at the time. What should be on her Super Bowl set list? (Sunday 31 August 2025; 09:14) this is a reply to message 110,831

Super Bowl (110,831) by Lambi from USA Agree. Had this been '96 Tokyo Dome Emotions Mariah, it would've been perfect. She could be a guest star though, like that short number moment with Latto in BET. But Mariah being lazy for a 15 minute set, in front of all of America, on the most watched live TV event, on the biggest gig a star could possibly get, is a no no. However, I don't think there's any leg to this. Even Mariah said herself, "I don't want a stressful moment." (Sunday 31 August 2025; 01:20)

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